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Apr 12 2020 04:20pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Apr 12 2020 08:42am)
first, we've had more than enough reports out that back up the claims made by Barr.
he goes on to say, that if there was any "criminal" conduct by anyone, that they will be prosecuted.

Comey got in trouble for leaking classified information to be distributed to the press. (not the worst thing he did, but it's pretty open/shut that "he" did it)

here is 2 questions if you actually want to discuss this:
1. who did Barr single out for criminal acts?
2. what evidence substantiated appointing a special prosecutor to start the investigation "Crossfire-Hurricane"? (knowing now that the FBI team had to actually "alter" and "exclude" facts that would have closed the prior investigations)


the only place you find ANY of this nonsense is FOX
fact checked to be as accurate to CNN or slightly worse. So take your pick

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Apr 12 2020 04:24pm
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Apr 12 2020 05:29pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 12 2020 06:08pm)
The irony of Icemage being triggered by unsubstantiated facts on Russiagate when for years that's exactly what he lived and died by.


Its an interesting hill to die on.
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Apr 12 2020 05:39pm
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Its an interesting hill to die on.

it’s what happens when one has nothing else to stand for
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Apr 13 2020 01:17pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 12 2020 06:20pm)
the only place you find ANY of this nonsense is FOX
fact checked to be as accurate to CNN or slightly worse. So take your pick

being one of a few "non-paid" persons to read through the entirety of these reports, i am able to make my own decisions and call out both sides "when" they are wrong about the subject.
i have watched the full senate and congressional hearings that included all the major players. i could tell you what both sides would play on media before they played it. it really is just that easy to predict when you know both sides just want sound-bites.

i could tell you a lot about this subject in particular, but don't take my word for it...
these are not listed in any particular order, and i'm missing a couple report links that are bookmarked on a HD that's not installed. a video list could be added as well.
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/o1902.pdf
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/f190529.pdf
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/r190529.pdf
https://dougcollins.house.gov/sites/dougcollins.house.gov/files/Lynch%20Interview%2012-19-18.pdf
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2018/o20180413.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

here's the conflicting memos about FISA abuse before the OIG's investigation from:
nunes - https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4365338/Nunes-memo.pdf
Schiff - https://docs.house.gov/meetings/ig/ig00/20180205/106838/hmtg-115-ig00-20180205-sd002.pdf
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Apr 13 2020 01:20pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Apr 12 2020 11:42am)
first, we've had more than enough reports out that back up the claims made by Barr.
he goes on to say, that if there was any "criminal" conduct by anyone, that they will be prosecuted.

Comey got in trouble for leaking classified information to be distributed to the press. (not the worst thing he did, but it's pretty open/shut that "he" did it)

here is 2 questions if you actually want to discuss this:
1. who did Barr single out for criminal acts?
2. what evidence substantiated appointing a special prosecutor to start the investigation "Crossfire-Hurricane"? (knowing now that the FBI team had to actually "alter" and "exclude" facts that would have closed the prior investigations)


Comey was criticized because he characterized investigative facts without indicting during the campaign season. Try to keep up.

Do I want to get into a retarded argument over settled facts? No, I'll pass on that. If you want to continue to believe a conspiracy theory even after it's been completely disproven, I can't stop you.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Apr 12 2020 06:08pm)
The irony of Icemage being triggered by unsubstantiated facts on Russiagate when for years that's exactly what he lived and died by.


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Apr 13 2020 01:35pm
Quote (IceMage @ Apr 13 2020 03:20pm)
Comey was criticized because he characterized investigative facts without indicting during the campaign season. Try to keep up.

Do I want to get into a retarded argument over settled facts? No, I'll pass on that. If you want to continue to believe a conspiracy theory even after it's been completely disproven, I can't stop you.



https://i.imgur.com/6mRrPpf.jpg

"characterized investigative facts without indicting"? lol what kind of spin even is that? are you talking about Comey's handling of the Clinton investigation? criticism is not the same as punishment
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/o1902.pdf
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Report of Investigation of Former Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey's Disclosure of Sensitive Investigative Information and Handling of Certain Memoranda

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However, after his removal as FBI Director two months later, Comey
provided a copy of Memo 4, which Comey had kept without authorization, to
Richman with instructions to share the contents with a reporter for The New York
Times. Memo 4 included information that was related to both the FBI's ongoing
investigation of Flynn and, by Comey’s own account, information that he believed
and alleged constituted evidence of an attempt to obstruct the ongoing Flynn
investigation; later that same day, The New York Times published an article about
Memo 4 entitled, “Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn
Investigation.”
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Apr 13 2020 01:47pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Apr 13 2020 03:35pm)
"characterized investigative facts without indicting"? lol what kind of spin even is that? are you talking about Comey's handling of the Clinton investigation? criticism is not the same as punishment
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/o1902.pdf


Dude... what are you talking about?

I bring up Comey getting criticized for breaking Department norms by discussing the conduct of someone not indicted during the campaign season, because it relates to what Bill Barr just did. Rosenstein included it in the memo he wrote that justified Comey's firing.

And you're bringing up some other incident? Did you forget about what Comey did in 2016? Or what? It's hard to discuss topics when you seem to get hung up on all these basics.
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Apr 13 2020 01:52pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Apr 13 2020 12:35pm)
"characterized investigative facts without indicting"? lol what kind of spin even is that? are you talking about Comey's handling of the Clinton investigation? criticism is not the same as punishment
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/o1902.pdf


SOOOO much cherry picking going on here..
Nobody has the time for those debates..SMH
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Apr 13 2020 02:02pm
Quote (IceMage @ Apr 13 2020 03:47pm)
Dude... what are you talking about?

I bring up Comey getting criticized for breaking Department norms by discussing the conduct of someone not indicted during the campaign season, because it relates to what Bill Barr just did. Rosenstein included it in the memo he wrote that justified Comey's firing.

And you're bringing up some other incident? Did you forget about what Comey did in 2016? Or what? It's hard to discuss topics when you seem to get hung up on all these basics.

i was the one that brought up Comey. i used him as an example for Barr's claims.
you were unable to point to anybody and just shouted "Barr in Cult". you then dodged legit questions and tried spinning my example instead. and for some reason try stealing my example to make that spin work? this is beyond dumb
Quote (theCrossbones @ Apr 13 2020 03:52pm)
SOOOO much cherry picking going on here..
Nobody has the time for those debates..SMH

why debate when you can just say "cult" right? why are you even in here?

post #25k woop woop

making an edit @ IceMage:
you did mention Comey first as you said. so i am wrong about how my statement is framed toward you.
however, most of it stands as "that" is either why, or just coincidence, that i used Comey to justify claims made by Barr. (not that Barr singled anyone out)

This post was edited by tagged4nothing on Apr 13 2020 02:14pm
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Apr 13 2020 02:14pm
Quote (tagged4nothing @ Apr 13 2020 01:02pm)
i was the one that brought up Comey. i used him as an example for Barr's claims.
you were unable to point to anybody and just shouted "Barr in Cult". you then dodged legit questions and tried spinning my example instead. and for some reason try stealing my example to make that spin work? this is beyond dumb

why debate when you can just say "cult" right? why are you even in here?

post #25k woop woop

making an edit @ icemage:
you did mention Comey first as you said. so i am wrong about how my statement is framed toward you.
however, most of it stands as "that" is either why, or just coincidence, that i used Comey to justify claims made by Barr. (not that Barr singled anyone out)


no there is no debating somebody that just cherry picks what they want. Its a waste of my time.
tRUmp supporters are clearly a cult. Most of them can't even criticize him for claiming the antibiotics cannot keep up with the smart virus. (paraphrase)
Look like ALL sorts of trump family BS all your focused on is Comey.. Just as I already knew.
I'm sure Comey broke the same rules going after HRC, were you on here bitching away? probably not.. You should petition investigation #28 on her.
cult

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