LOL. Holy shit this is embarrassing.

This post was edited by IceMage on Feb 17 2024 10:04am

Your beloved president is a child sniffer and he doesn't even realize it because he's too far gone

The claim that was being discussed was that Scott Ritter was some form of informed professional, which he is not. If you need or need not be an expert to understand these things is not really a discussion we have been having and frankly i don't know the answer to that.

"It doesn't mean that Putin just wanted to grab land." - Putin himself said that was the reason in his interview with Tucker. Again, you're not disagreeing with me on Putins intention in terms of the war, you are disagreeing with Putin himself. If you don't believe Putins justifications for his own war then I don't know what to say.



Apparently not. Putin was talking about how the west is more pragmatic and progressive in his interview with Tucker and that the east is more spiritual and moral. Apparently spirituality and morality is recruiting some sex offender with no prior knowledge of the geographical area.

Me and others have explained to you multiple times why Scott Ritter is not a trustworthy source. If you chose to ignore those reasons or simply cant understand them then that is unfortunate. If you want me to lay them out for you again I happily will, but your arguments are just circular at this point.

Nobody is saying all men are sex offenders, but Scott Ritter is an admitted and convicted child sex offender, these are just the facts and they do matter if you want to understand why he ended up making propaganda in Russia.

I believe Hillary Clinton, John Bolton and Lindsay Graham are trustworthy sources.

Thats good for you! I don't know what that has to do with Scott Ritter though.

Scott Ritter comments have been posted all over this topic, no one calls him an expert and everybody recognizes that he's critical of US foreign policy (which I already mentioned). No one moans about it like you do. Get over it dude there are two sides to every story, deal with it.


Putin and various Russian govt officials have stated several times that the reason for the war is Ukraine's NATO bid and they also stated that a peace deal will have to include Ukrainian neutrality.

Russia doesn't need extra land they got plenty. The reason is Ukraine's NATO bid and the fact that lots of ethnic Russians live in Ukraine, Crimea has been Russian for hundreds of years /strategically important and Sevastopol (Russian naval base) that they don't want to lose to NATO.

Would NATO except it if it were the other way around? I don't think so

I mean you have literally been defending him all day, you even said and i quote "Scott Ritter has extensive military background (intelligence officer in the United States Marine Corps and worked as weapons inspector in Iraq) which is why his opinion matters." - You literally think this laymans opinion matters, but you admit he is not an expert and he is a paid russian state actor?

"Putin and various Russian govt officials have stated several times that the reason for the war is Ukraine's NATO bid and they also stated that a peace deal will have to include Ukrainian neutrality." - This is not what Putin said just this week in the Tucker interview. Im assuming you haven't heard it since you don't know what Putin explicitly says is the reason for the invasion?

"Russia doesn't need extra land they got plenty." - Not according to Putin. Again, you're not arguing with my opinion, you are arguing with Putins intention. Again if you think you know Putins intention better than Putin then thats on you, guess you're gonna have to take that one up with him.

Although it gives me peace of mind that those are German opinions in 2024.

Clearly I responded to your first post here and pointed out (taken from the Wiki page I linked) why his opinion matters.

Ukraine's NATO bid / Ukrainian neutrality YES that's what it's all about and was stated multiple times. NATO insists that Ukraine becomes a NATO member and Russia insists Ukraine must remain neutral as we all know (except you apparently)