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Feb 17 2024 03:14am
Quote (ferdia @ Feb 17 2024 10:07am)
you know that understanding the enemy is a benefit right ? I am a bit perplexed by this convicted pedo line, is it that because he committed a crime he has no insights into a military conflict ?


I never said he has no insights into military conflicts, I personally would not get my information from a convicted pedophile who is begrudged that his career in the US is over, however. Ritter is a known and open Kreml actor, here he is for instance holding a propaganda pep speech in Russia as per the wishes of the Russian government: https://twitter.com/yarotrof/status/1743642251513717196 . There are lots of great sources out there, literature spanning hundreds of years, yearly interviews with Putin and out of all the sources you could pick to understand the conflict you picked Scott Ritter.

I personally don't care if you are pro russia or not, but reposting pedophiles who have a vested interest in the conflict and calling it "insight" is almost laughable. If you need Scott Ritter to tell you about the enemy then you just don't read enough king.
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Feb 17 2024 03:16am
Quote (ferdia @ 17 Feb 2024 10:07)
you know that understanding the enemy is a benefit right ? I am a bit perplexed by this convicted pedo line, is it that because he committed a crime he has no insights into a military conflict ?


It’s the definition of ad hominem logic fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Inability to make a structured argument about a topic of the debate, makes weak participants go after the author of the argument in an attempt to undermine his credibility and not the credibility of his argument.
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Feb 17 2024 03:17am
Quote (Malopox @ Feb 17 2024 09:16am)
It’s the definition of ad hominem logic fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Inability to make a structured argument about a topic of the debate, makes weak participants go after the author of the argument in an attempt to undermine his credibility and not the credibility of his argument.


yes, thats sums it up perfectly thanks.

So briefly, What Scott is alluding to in the video is that it may be Putin's goal to invade and claim everything east of the dniepo river, in Ukraine. That looks to be a hell of a lot of land.

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Feb 17 2024 03:18am
Now their openly shilling out for pedophiles. Jesus christ :rofl:
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Feb 17 2024 03:31am
Quote (Malopox @ 17 Feb 2024 11:54)
Reminds me of that


Meanwhile's cat paradox
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Feb 17 2024 03:34am
Quote (Hobbiks @ Feb 17 2024 10:04am)
Thank you for posting convicted pedophile Scott Ritter talking about Putin. I personally get all of my political takes from convicted and admitted pedos, personally.

On topic: Putin wants to take land, he was explicit about it in his latest interview. If you think that authoritarian rulers should be able to take over or annex land freely then just be honest about it and dont complain when a superpower turns your third world balkan country into a suburb of Beijing.


Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 17 2024 10:18am)
Now their openly shilling out for pedophiles. Jesus christ :rofl:


Scott Ritter has extensive military background (intelligence officer in the United States Marine Corps and worked as weapons inspector in Iraq) which is why his opinion matters.

He's not a US govt shill so of course he needs to be cancelled / locked up, preferably in Ukraine just like the late Gonzalo Lira

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Feb 17 2024 03:42am
I set before you five small figurines

One is a GI Joe, representing a hypocritical american conquermonkey
One is a Troll Doll, representing a backstabbing republican traitor
One is a LotR orc, representing a vatnik bullet sponge
One is Marvel's Red Skull, representing a khokhol neonazi
One is an Anthony Kiedis bobblehead, representing a predatory pedophile

To complete this psychological experiment, you must arrange these figurines in order of moral culpability. Is Prince Wilhelm responsible for Celestine's death, or would you not trust Andrii Biletskyi around your daughter?
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Feb 17 2024 03:42am
Thousands of military analysts out there but the one they want to use is a convicted sex offender that literally works with RT a Russian state owned media company.

This guy has gone on record saying the bucha massacre was committed by Ukrainians.

That's when you know he is literally a Russian propagandist mouthpiece.

And these idiots think he is a top class miltary analyst :rofl:

If this is the shit these guys consume regularly then it's no surprise how pro Russian they openly are.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Feb 17 2024 03:43am
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Quote (Malopox @ Feb 17 2024 10:16am)
It’s the definition of ad hominem logic fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

Inability to make a structured argument about a topic of the debate, makes weak participants go after the author of the argument in an attempt to undermine his credibility and not the credibility of his argument.


Two things, firstly, what you just did is a fallacy in itself, it's the argument from fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy . Please do not call other people out for fallacies when it is apparent you clearly do not understand them yourself. By invalidating somebodys argument by pointing to a fallacy, you are making a fallacious appeal. That brings me to my second point:

An ad hominem fallacy would be not discussing the argument at hand, i indeed did discuss why Ritter is an untrustworthy source, and didn't just call him untrustworthy outright. Ritter is a state actor who has a vested interest in the conflict. Furthermore:

Quote (Djunior @ Feb 17 2024 10:34am)
Scott Ritter has extensive military background (intelligence officer in the United States Marine Corps and worked as weapons inspector in Iraq) which is why his opinion matters.

He's not a US govt shill so of course he needs to be cancelled / locked up, preferably in Ukraine just like the late Gonzalo Lira


Ritter is not an expert on eastern Europe and has never claimed to be. Ritter is a ballistics expert who is begrudged that his career ended because he got convicted of crimes against children. It's interesting that you say that Ritter is not a US government shill, but he was literally an employee of the US government and the UN, and you yourself bring that up as a good thing, i quote "his extensive military background".
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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 17 2024 10:42am)
Thousands of military analysts out there but the one they want to use is a convicted sex offender that literally works with, RT a Russian state owned media company.

This guy has gone on record saying the bucha massacre was commuted by Ukrainians.

That's when you know he is literally a Russian propagandist mouthpiece.

And these idiots think he is a top class miltary analyst :rofl:


Its honestly sad. There are so many great sources out there if you want to argue your case and if you are pro-russia. I might not agree with them but atleast they arent written by actual Russian state actor pedos lmfao. I can't believe what i'm seeing.
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