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Feb 17 2024 12:46am
So the most relevant question should be: What's next?

Russia will complete their hold over Avdiivka in the next few days, like they did over Artemivsk (gotta respect its transition back from Bakhmut). Its still winter, the avdiivka front hasn't been some huge breakout and overrunning deep ukrainian lines, its closing a pocket around the city. But what will happen on that front next, will Russia dig in along the fortifications Ukraine used to hold, like the bunker complex? Where will Ukrainian troops fall back, considering the terrain? There's about a 15-20 mile arc to the northwest of farmlands with pockets of villages, not enough to fortify like the avdiivka urban areas.
The most likely scenario is the conflict freezes again, maybe for months or even years. Could Russia try to stage a breakout and see if they can seize the farmlands and villages? If Ukraine has their own minefields and artillery lines to defend it, that doesn't seem likely, but if they're really routed, who knows.
It begs the question of when the US will be willing to come to the table and what gains will satisfy Putin. Avdiivka was the last big pocket inside the Russian line, I mean they could take smaller cities like Siversk like they aborted earlier, but then what?
If this gain is followed by a few months of lull, and we go into a presidential election season, will Joe Biden feel forced to actually deliver peace in Ukraine, or will Trump undercut him by bringing a peace message to a public who should be disinterested with Ukraine and unenthusiastic after their losses?
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Feb 17 2024 01:09am
Quote (Santara @ Feb 16 2024 09:47pm)
Bakhmut currently:

https://i.imgur.com/5R7iqJk.png

They've gone no further in 8 months, so indeed it was a symbolic victory that the orcs paid heavily for.

Oh, yeah, you're SOOOO objective. You were obviously cheerleading when you said:

...because this intimates that you are listening, hoping for some reaction which you're wanting to gloat over. Ivan gonna Ivan.


Wrong, there's been heavy fighting around Bakhmut for months on end, we've seen Ukraine throw the best brigades they had at the flanks of the city last summer in an effort to surround it including the elite neo Nazi Azov brigade, the kind of guys you're supporting here SMH. And the Russians pushed them back.

The badly led, badly trained, badly equipped conscripts that were thrown into the meatgrinder pushed the elite NATO trained / NATO equipped Ukrainian brigades back and now we never hear from Bakhmut again but the reality is that Ukraine's counteroffensive was defeated by the Russians that's how you call it when you lose a major battle that was prepared for a year and hyped up with Ukrainian army ads.

Second part of your post is just LOL, here comes another "analysis" of how something that I posted "proves" this or that. Almost as good as your analysis of posts of mine that you claimed "proved" that I'm Russian or work for the KGB or some shit like that.

Reality is that I reacted to this quote and the guy in question realized that because he replied and I didn't even quote him

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ May 13 2023 03:56pm)
Awfully quiet in here on a day where Russia shot down multiples of their own aircraft and retreated from Bakhmut. Can hear a pin drop.



Looking forward to your next analysis of my posts, I will be happy to tear that to pieces once again. Cya :P

This post was edited by Djunior on Feb 17 2024 01:16am
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imagine these guys sucking Putin's regime :rofl:
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Quote (Meanwhile @ 28 Sep 2023 22:23)
I don't understand it, so it doesn't exists


Reminds me of that
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Feb 17 2024 03:01am


Scott Ritter said a few insightful things in here re: what can be inferred re: Russia's goals (of land conquest) in Ukraine re: Dnipro River



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Quote (ferdia @ Feb 17 2024 10:01am)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAOzLYWi3Zs


Thank you for posting convicted pedophile Scott Ritter talking about Putin. I personally get all of my political takes from convicted and admitted pedos, personally.

On topic: Putin wants to take land, he was explicit about it in his latest interview. If you think that authoritarian rulers should be able to take over or annex land freely then just be honest about it and dont complain when a superpower turns your third world balkan country into a suburb of Beijing.
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Quote (Hobbiks @ Feb 17 2024 09:04am)
Thank you for posting convicted pedophile Scott Ritter talking about Putin. I personally get all of my political takes from convicted and admitted pedos, personally.

On topic: Putin wants to take land, he was explicit about it in his latest interview. If you think that authoritarian rulers should be able to take over or annex land freely then just be honest about it and dont complain when a superpower turns your third world balkan country into a suburb of Beijing.


you know that understanding the enemy is a benefit right ? I am a bit perplexed by this convicted pedo line, is it that because he committed a crime he has no insights into a military conflict ?

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