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#39411
Feb 16 2024 10:38am
The war started in 2014 btw, you are literally shopping for a narrative.

lets refute these one by one:

1. Its about Russia invading Ukraine because the Kremlin is mind fucking the people of Russia to think that the west is the cause of all their problems and are bad - No its about the USA carrying out a coup in 2014 and replacing a democratically elected government with their own people, who then spent 7 years bombing eastern ukraine with cluster munitions etc. Russia was deemed too weak to do anything about it, and they were too weak. It took Russia 7 years to get balls and say enough is enough.

2. Putin blames the west re: Russian Airport - I believe this was covered previously in the topic, would anyone care to respond?

3. see point 1.

4. ehmmm... https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2019-09/news/us-completes-inf-treaty-withdrawal pot meet kettle.





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#39412
Feb 16 2024 11:02am
Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 16 2024 05:34pm)
Its about Russia invading Ukraine because the Kremlin is mind fucking the people of Russia to think that the west is the cause of all their problems and are bad

https://i.imgur.com/v21ucN9.png
https://i.imgur.com/SSSqluS.png
https://i.imgur.com/RpoLwZx.png

mind fucking you hogs as well


Your feelings don't matter here ;)

This is about ongoing NATO expansion East (fact), a whole bunch of ethnic Russians that live in Ukraine in areas that Russia considers historically Russian (fact), Crimea which has been Russian for hundreds of years (fact), Sevastopol which is a Russian naval base (fact), a Western-backed coup in 2014 where the legitimate Ukrainian govt was overthrown (fact) and the 2022 invasion of Ukraine which is 100% provoked by NATO (well US foreign policy really).

Secondly the US has sent tons and tons of aid to Ukraine already and it only made things worse. Ukraine is getting wrecked which could've been avoided entirely.

Lastly you're blaming republicans while that shit administration that you're shilling is simply incompetent they don't take US domestic issues serious even when they're being put under pressure.



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Feb 16 2024 11:03am
Quote (Djunior @ 16 Feb 2024 12:02)
Your feelings don't matter here ;)

This is about ongoing NATO expansion East (fact), a whole bunch of ethnic Russians that live in Ukraine in areas that Russia considers historically Russian (fact), Crimea which has been Russian for hundreds of years (fact), Sevastopol which is a Russian naval base (fact), a Western-backed coup in 2014 where the legitimate Ukrainian govt was overthrown (fact) and the 2022 invasion of Ukraine which is 100% provoked by NATO (well US foreign policy really).

Secondly the US has sent tons and tons of aid to Ukraine already and it only made things worse. Ukraine is getting wrecked which could've been avoided entirely.

Lastly you're blaming republicans while that shit administration that you're shilling is simply incompetent they don't take US domestic issues serious even when they're being put under pressure.

https://i.imgur.com/LpedtkA.jpg


Wierd how what you say has nothing to do with all the reasons the Kremlin says theya re going to war with Ukraine

sounds like you have it all wrong and your feelings dont matter

but what else is new
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Feb 16 2024 11:42am
Quote (Crunkt @ 16 Feb 2024 11:08)
Every day it becomes more and more obvious that The current GOP is simply pandering to the Russian dictatorship



need to add a new point to this

just today a 'trusted fbi informant' as the GOP claim and have been using as a cruz of their case against Biden impeachment and also Hunter Biden's profitting schemes, has been found by a grand jury to be criminally liable and has been charged with 2 counts 1. felony false statements 2. Obstruction of justice.

So again, more proof that the hogs are just brainwashed by Russian bullshit lead efforts to discount western democracy.

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#39415
Feb 16 2024 12:13pm
Quote (Djunior @ 16 Feb 2024 18:02)
Your feelings don't matter here ;)

This is about ongoing NATO expansion East (fact), a whole bunch of ethnic Russians that live in Ukraine in areas that Russia considers historically Russian (fact), Crimea which has been Russian for hundreds of years (fact), Sevastopol which is a Russian naval base (fact), a Western-backed coup in 2014 where the legitimate Ukrainian govt was overthrown (fact) and the 2022 invasion of Ukraine which is 100% provoked by NATO (well US foreign policy really).

Secondly the US has sent tons and tons of aid to Ukraine already and it only made things worse. Ukraine is getting wrecked which could've been avoided entirely.

Lastly you're blaming republicans while that shit administration that you're shilling is simply incompetent they don't take US domestic issues serious even when they're being put under pressure.

https://i.imgur.com/LpedtkA.jpg


Writing "facts" doesn't make your words true
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Feb 16 2024 12:31pm
Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Feb 16 2024 07:13pm)
Writing "facts" doesn't make your words true


You could've looked up those facts online but maybe you prefer your MSM propaganda outlets




And NATO welcoming NATO membership bids of Ukraine and Georgia https://www.nato.int/docu/update/2008/04-april/e0403h.html


Crimea --> Russian since 1783 and population 67% Russian --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

Also talks about strategic importance etc


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#39417
Feb 16 2024 12:37pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 16 2024 06:03pm)
Wierd how what you say has nothing to do with all the reasons the Kremlin says theya re going to war with Ukraine

sounds like you have it all wrong and your feelings dont matter

but what else is new


Those facts are the core issues, you just posted a rant about republicans blocking Ukraine aid while the Biden administration could've resolved the issue but instead of doing that they were too busy attacking Texas over a barb wire fence that was put in place to keep the illegal migrants out.

What a joke
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#39418
Feb 16 2024 12:59pm
Quote (Djunior @ Feb 16 2024 06:05am)
Fall of Robotyne (population of ~500, bunch of farms) --> important Ukrainian victory / strategic importance / and so on

Avdiivka (fortress frontline city since 2014, population 31K, industrial areas) --> not important / monumental costs :thumbsup:

You sound like a sore loser who's tossing in the usual Russian names when he's upset


Robotyne was somewhat important up until the Ukrainian failed to follow up with further gains.



If you don't want to be called Russian names, maybe you should stop behaving like their cheerleader?

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Feb 16 2024 07:01am)
So what you're saying is that the Russians have liberated yet another city in the Donbas Republics from the Asov Nazis who were oppressing it? Cool!


Spare me the Nazi bullshit when the Russians are behaving just like them.
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#39419
Feb 16 2024 01:16pm
Quote (Santara @ Feb 16 2024 07:59pm)
Robotyne was somewhat important up until the Ukrainian failed to follow up with further gains.

If you don't want to be called Russian names, maybe you should stop behaving like their cheerleader?


Western media have turned into a bunch of government mouthpieces and trash propaganda outlets.

Bakhmut was a strategically important city when it was in Ukrainian hands, when the city fell to the Russians it was called nothing more than a symbolic victory and during the summer counter offensive MSM excitedly reported that Ukraine was making gains and poised to take this strategically important city.


Secondly looking at this conflict objectively is not cheerleading funny that this rubs you the wrong way. Maybe you still don't understand that it's US foreign policy that's responsible for this conflict.

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#39420
Feb 16 2024 01:28pm
Damn, same people, same cope.

Where's all the western superweapons?

Does anyone here still think the west is winning? :rofl:

This thread is going to be such a goldmine when this is all over
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