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Jul 13 2021 10:14am
Quote (Melatonina @ Jul 13 2021 11:11am)
It's a neurologic disease with no treatment, how you say so easily that it shouldn't be a concern shows your blindness.
it may only 100 case but it's also only 1 side effect out of god knows how many.
I've said since long that bad vaccines cause neurologic disease, auto immunes diseases such as sclerosis, which are much worse than getting covid itself.
it's just non sense to keep going with vaccines because they will never eradicate all the variants with just vaccines. we see it perfectly with flu virus.


Oh for fuck's sake, I'm not saying that GBS isn't a concern. I'm saying that the incidence rate among those having received the J&J/Janssen vaccine is not outside the normal incidence rate for the population in general, so the idea that there should be an additional warning from the CDC over it is dumb.

https://www.medscape.com/answers/315632-14154/what-is-the-incidence-of-guillain-barre-syndrome-gbs-in-the-us

Oh, and look...it appears that COVID itself is causing a higher incidence rate than the vaccine is.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jul 13 2021 11:13am)
On wiki it's interesting to read that you have much more chances to have this syndrome when catching COVID or others viruses (ie: FLU = 4-7/100k)

hmm very interesting:

The GBS incidence estimates in COVID-19 positive patients were 47.9 per 100,000. While the COVID-19 hospitalized patients with GBS incidence were at 236 per 100,000.

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/rise-in-guillain-barre-syndrome-cases-due-to-covid-outbreak

Could help some people who have issue understanding what's going on.



This post was edited by Surfpunk on Jul 13 2021 10:16am
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Quote (Surfpunk @ Jul 13 2021 09:14am)
Oh for fuck's sake, I'm not saying that GBS isn't a concern. I'm saying that the incidence rate among those having received the J&J/Janssen vaccine is not outside the normal incidence rate for the population in general, so the idea that there should be an additional warning from the CDC over it is dumb.

https://www.medscape.com/answers/315632-14154/what-is-the-incidence-of-guillain-barre-syndrome-gbs-in-the-us

Oh, and look...it appears that COVID itself is causing a higher incidence rate than the vaccine is.


but who cares about this.. because only fat people get COVID.
his brain logic is fucked now because
it was a concern.
But COVID is not and fuck fat and/or people.
Does he really care or not?
GSB is BAD and OMG!
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Quote (Surfpunk @ Jul 13 2021 06:14pm)
Oh for fuck's sake, I'm not saying that GBS isn't a concern. I'm saying that the incidence rate among those having received the J&J/Janssen vaccine is not outside the normal incidence rate for the population in general, so the idea that there should be an additional warning from the CDC over it is dumb.

https://www.medscape.com/answers/315632-14154/what-is-the-incidence-of-guillain-barre-syndrome-gbs-in-the-us

Oh, and look...it appears that COVID itself is causing a higher incidence rate than the vaccine is.


Oh I see, autorities should only write things and take actions that are in line with your thoughts.

Also it does not matter if covid can gives it too since your vaccines does not guarantee you to not get covid you fucking idiot

Quote (theCrossbones @ Jul 13 2021 06:19pm)
but who cares about this.. because only fat people get COVID.
his brain logic is fucked now because
it was a concern.
But COVID is not and fuck fat and/or people.
Does he really care or not?
GSB is BAD and OMG!


no

only fat people want vaccination mandatory that is very different
because they represent the most mass of covid deaths, with others comorbidities.

but that clown fest won't last for long because truth always find its way so I'm not too much worried

This post was edited by Melatonina on Jul 13 2021 10:20am
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Jul 13 2021 10:23am
Quote (Melatonina @ Jul 13 2021 09:19am)
Oh I see, autorities should only write things and take actions that are in line with your thoughts.

Also it does not matter if covid can gives it too since your vaccines does not guarantee you to not get covid you fucking idiot



no

only fat people want vaccination mandatory that is very different
because they represent the most mass of covid deaths, with others comorbidities.

but that clown fest won't last for long because truth always find its way so I'm not too much worried


so the reporting of GBS and the stopping of the astronomically small clotting side effects they went through.
1. Means they are doing a good job watching for side effects.
2. Or they are all nut jobs and there are thousands more side effects they don't report just to kill people because Bill Gates and fuck fat people.

you choose

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so the reporting of GBS and the stopping of the astronomically small clotting side effects they went through.
1. Means they are doing a good job watching for side effects.
2. Or they are all nut jobs and there are thousands more side effects they don't report just to kill people because Bill Gates and fuck fat people.

you choose


1.
But
most side effects are developped longer after the vaccine shot. wife of my friend got hepB vaccine at 18 and only developped sclerosis 2 years ago, at 33.

ask her if she want to get a covid vaccine now..

(in others words, we are still discovering side effects and it will take many years before we know all of them)

This post was edited by Melatonina on Jul 13 2021 10:26am
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Quote (Melatonina @ Jul 13 2021 11:19am)
Oh I see, autorities should only write things and take actions that are in line with your thoughts.

Also it does not matter if covid can gives it too since your vaccines does not guarantee you to not get covid you fucking idiot


Keep bringing up points I'm not arguing, you chad. It's a gorram straw man extravaganza up in here today.

With regard to incidence rate of GBS, what is a greater red flag?

A .78/100k incidence rate (that's the conversion from 1/128k) vs 1.2/100k one for J&J vaccine vs general population
A 47.9/100k incidence rate vs 1.2/100k for COVID-positive people?

Jeebus, even at the lowest end of the general pop estimate range, the rate for J&J vaccine recipients is only 65% of that for the general population. There's a better case to be made just from those two rates that the J&J vaccine is lowering the chance of developing GBS.
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Quote (Surfpunk @ Jul 13 2021 06:26pm)
Keep bringing up points I'm not arguing, you chad. It's a gorram straw man extravaganza up in here today.

With regard to incidence rate of GBS, what is a greater red flag?

A .78/100k incidence rate (that's the conversion from 1/128k) vs 1.2/100k one for J&J vaccine vs general population
A 47.9/100k incidence rate vs 1.2/100k for COVID-positive people?

Jeebus, even at the lowest end of the general pop estimate range, the rate for J&J vaccine recipients is only 65% of that for the general population. There's a better case to be made just from those two rates that the J&J vaccine is lowering the chance of developing GBS.


what else can we say to hopeless people like you ?

go get your fucking shot, I really don't care about it.

get a disease and then pay for the treatment to the same people that sold you vaccines. and good riddance. too many dumb people on earth anyways
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Jul 13 2021 10:32am
Quote (Melatonina @ Jul 13 2021 09:25am)
1.
But
most side effects are developped longer after the vaccine shot. wife of my friend got hepB vaccine at 18 and only developped sclerosis 2 years ago, at 33.

ask her if she want to get a covid vaccine now..

(in others words, we are still discovering side effects and it will take many years before we know all of them)

How do you know her Sclerosis is linked to Hep B vax?

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Quote (Melatonina @ Jul 13 2021 11:28am)
what else can we say to hopeless people like you ?

go get your fucking shot, I really don't care about it.

get a disease and then pay for the treatment to the same people that sold you vaccines. and good riddance. too many dumb people on earth anyways


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Jul 13 2021 10:35am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jul 13 2021 06:32pm)
How do you know her Sclerosis is linked to Hep B vax?


Justice said it.

In be4 justice is wrong when it's not aligned with stupid american ideas about health.

https://www.7sur7.be/sante-et-bien-etre/gsk-condamne-pour-le-lien-entre-vaccin-contre-l-hepatite-b-et-sclerose-en-plaques~a5ef44e0/

Anyways it was written since 1994. GSK had to pay the victim because that risk was simply not mentioned on the box lmao

notice that now they learned from their mistakes. it's specifically written that you cant charge the labs for any side effect after getting covid vaccine.
it's so obvious but you dumb fat people will still get your shot regardless

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