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Feb 7 2024 11:54am
Quote (babun1024 @ Feb 7 2024 05:48pm)
USA overestimated its influence at that point, Russia overestimated itself as well with boots on the ground. They didn't know current stalemate would be the outcome.
You're looking at the situation with revisionist glasses.
what part of what i said is revisionist ? red line. whether russia wins or goes bust is irrelevant, it was do or die from putin's perspective. how is that revisionist ?
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Feb 7 2024 11:56am
Quote (bogie160 @ 7 Feb 2024 12:52)
Obama was very clear in 2014 that Ukraine was not a core interest of the United States. American policy for the last ~80 years has been to support Arab dictatorships in return for stability in the Middle East. What you're saying fundamentally contradicts historical reality.
So your argument is because the US isnt bombing the countries right now that clearly that isnt the ultimate goal. Wake up
Im not going to be your teacher for what US foreign policy is. IT is your duty to inform yourself as a citizen it is not my job to tell you the square fits into the square hole.
There are dozens of example of the US invading and making countries/ areas from a regime into a democracy.
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Feb 7 2024 11:58am
Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 7 2024 12:54pm)
There is no way that you legitimately think Russia is a democracy. You are fucked if you think that and likely an invalid that should not be taken seriously
https://i.imgur.com/UWcGx9v.png
https://wavellroom.com/2023/01/25/its-official-russia-is-a-dictatorship/
https://i.imgur.com/stD8Vx3.png
https://www.swp-berlin.org/10.18449/2022C30/
You're incredibly dense.
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Feb 7 2024 12:01pm
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You're incredibly dense.
Putin can stand up at a podium and call it a democracy all he wants. You and I both know Putin wouldnt let himself lose an election let alone allow the government to over rule him in anyway.
Stop being willfully blind just to avoid an L its really pathetic
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Feb 7 2024 12:01pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 7 2024 05:56pm)
So your argument is because the US isnt bombing the countries right now that clearly that isnt the ultimate goal. Wake up
Im not going to be your teacher for what US foreign policy is. IT is your duty to inform yourself as a citizen it is not my job to tell you the square fits into the square hole.
There are dozens of example of the US invading and making countries/ areas from a regime into a democracy
.
great
name them
or else i cry BS.
This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 7 2024 12:03pm
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Feb 7 2024 12:02pm
Quote (ferdia @ 7 Feb 2024 21:01)
great name them.
Japan, but you have to nuclear bomb it first
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Feb 7 2024 12:03pm
Quote (ferdia @ 7 Feb 2024 13:01)
great name them.
Buddy you dont get it
Its not my job to tell you facts, you are supposed to know them, remember?
We live in an age where you can google what facts are in 5 seconds, we dont need to argue what the facts of the matter are. ONly morons and children need to argue what the facts of the matter are
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Feb 7 2024 12:04pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 7 2024 06:03pm)
Buddy you dont get it
Its not my job to tell you facts, you are supposed to know them, remember?
We live in an age where you can google what facts are in 5 seconds, we dont need to argue what the facts of the matter are. ONly morons and children need to argue what the facts of the matter are
oh look someone answered for you. Japan was turned into a democracy, after the US dropped nuclear bombs on it and stationed a permanent military base there. 1 down, 11 to go. Ye I guess you showed me lol. If you cant support your statements with facts all you are doing is farting in the wind.
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Feb 7 2024 12:05pm
Quote (ferdia @ 8 Feb 2024 02:04)
oh look someone answered for you. Japan was turned into a democracy, after the US dropped nuclear bombs on it and stationed a permanent military base there. 1 down, 11 to go. Ye I guess you showed me.
Do you watch Anime like Bleach ? I can imagine the IQ of Rukia's Bankai.
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Feb 7 2024 12:07pm
Quote (ferdia @ Feb 7 2024 12:01pm)
great
name them
.
Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Syria, Vietnam, Lebanon, Cuba, the Congo, Cambodia, Iran, Nicaragua, Honduras, Somalia
Today they are all beacons of democracy lit round the globe
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