Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Feb 2024 05:43)

The answer is no, obviously not. Russia is a glorified gas station, a source of cheap resources, that has lost its empire and simply doesn't have the economic clout to compete with the world superpowers anymore.
America and China are the only true superpowers, the EU teetering on the far edges of dissolution and lack of productivity, while India is ascendant and threatening to make it a tripartite power structure. Russia is not on course to resume the USSR's mantle.

Russia can't project its force worldwide, it can't win the economic peacetime by expanding its influence like China's belt and road initiative can, it can't manipulate global commerce like America can. Its ability to interfere in proxy conflicts basically extends to its immediate borders and some lingering presence in the absolutely poorest and least impactful shitholes in Africa, its barely got a presence in the mideast with Assad. Unaligned countries probably care more about pissing off Modi than pissing off Putin at this point.

Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 7 2024 11:12am)

I think you should learn how to read and stop this revisionist history bullshit

Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Feb 2024 20:20)

step 1: revise history
step 2: call other people history revisionists
step 3: ask the literal nazis to hide their tattoos when western journalists are taking pictures because its inconvenient to your history revisionism


Its telling how in nearly 10 years since the Maidan, none of the apologists have come up for a credible excuse for the fact that a democratically elected government was overthrown by a violent minority in a coup, backed and micromanaged by foreign powers, and carried out by literal Nazis who handed out Nazi literature in the streets. What's supposed to be the denial? That the guys waving swastikas and copies of mein kampf aren't really nazis? That the elections recognized by every world power as legitimate, weren't actually legitimate? That the CIA wasn't involved even when it was caught on recorded telephone lines handpicking the new government, and unironically put a head of the CIA on the board of Burisma?

Quote (Goomshill @ 7 Feb 2024 12:20)

step 1: revise history
step 2: call other people history revisionists
step 3: ask the literal nazis to hide their tattoos when western journalists are taking pictures because its inconvenient to your history revisionism


Its telling how in nearly 10 years since the Maidan, none of the apologists have come up for a credible excuse for the fact that a democratically elected government was overthrown by a violent minority in a coup, backed and micromanaged by foreign powers, and carried out by literal Nazis who handed out Nazi literature in the streets. What's supposed to be the denial? That the guys waving swastikas and copies of mein kampf aren't really nazis? That the elections recognized by every world power as legitimate, weren't actually legitimate? That the CIA wasn't involved even when it was caught on recorded telephone lines handpicking the new government, and unironically put a head of the CIA on the board of Burisma?

Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 7 2024 05:27pm)

you know why? because that is all in your head bro.

did you read the Mueller report? It said on page fucking one that Russia consequentially interfered with the 2016 election.

Putin actually said that the west is a threat to his country and literally invaded a democratic country a couple years ago and is at war with a cemocratic country and his reasoning is that the west must fall.

You are so deeply brainwashed that you truly believe Russia is an ally. Russia was never and never will be an ally unless they stop having such a corrupt government and inequality.

2020 was the most secure election in history. Trump fucking lost. Get over yourself. He is going to jail, and Russia is not your friend. Youre welcome.

Quote (Crunkt @ Feb 7 2024 12:27pm)

you know why? because that is all in your head bro.

did you read the Mueller report? It said on page fucking one that Russia consequentially interfered with the 2016 election.

Putin actually said that the west is a threat to his country and literally invaded a democratic country a couple years ago and is at war with a cemocratic country and his reasoning is that the west must fall.

You are so deeply brainwashed that you truly believe Russia is an ally. Russia was never and never will be an ally unless they stop having such a corrupt government and inequality.

2020 was the most secure election in history. Trump fucking lost. Get over yourself. He is going to jail, and Russia is not your friend. Youre welcome.

Quote (ferdia @ 7 Feb 2024 12:30)

Oh snap. how embarrassing. you talk about revisionist history and you are literally revising the history that is being fed to you in a narrative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k

Quote (bogie160 @ 7 Feb 2024 12:32)

China is hostile to Western democracy. India is hostile to Western democracy. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, Yemen, South Africa, Venezuela, North Korea, Vietnam, Myanmar, the list goes on and on and on. What are you suggesting, that we should fight any and every country that does not support Western style democracy?

Russia is clearly not a friend of the United States, but that's neither here nor there. The question is whether we should be spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a foreign war, the outcome for which means very little for our security.

Quote (bogie160 @ Feb 7 2024 05:32pm)

China is hostile to Western democracy. India is hostile to Western democracy. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar, Yemen, South Africa, Venezuela, North Korea, Vietnam, Myanmar, the list goes on and on and on. What are you suggesting, that we should fight any and every country that does not support Western style democracy?

Russia is clearly not a friend of the United States, but that's neither here nor there. The question is whether we should be spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a foreign war, the outcome for which means very little for our security.