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Apr 9 2022 05:02am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 9 Apr 2022 10:43)
As much as I think Trump is a morally questionable individual and at times extremely revolting.
I think the current Ukraine war might have been prevented if he was still the president.
And during his second term or halfway through , he would have negotiated some decent deals with China and things will still be fairly normal.


Quote (ferdia @ 9 Apr 2022 10:44)
i have only mentioned this briefly but yes i am of the same mind. its sad that a non politician of questionable character, morally bankrupt, can have a better grasp on certain things then a seasoned politician, who should.

It's really hard to tell how all of this would have gone down under Trump. He would have pursued more fossils-friendly policies at home and had a better working relationship with the Saudis, so gas prices and inflation would definitely have been less bad than under Biden.

On the other hand, would he have sent weapons to Ukraine throughout 2021 and particularly in early 2022 when the invasion was already becoming apparent? God knows. Would he have scared off Putin with some insane rhetoric, along the lines of the madman theory? Thinkable, but imho rather unlikely. After the start of the invasion, would Trump have worked as hard as Biden to keep the Western alliance and NATO together? Most likely not. Is is possible that he would have thrown Ukraine to the wolves, or that he could have wavered in terms of the NATO committment to Article 5 with regards to the Baltics? Definitely.



Basically, the whole range would have been thinkable imho, from Trump being Putin's lapdog to Trump being a giga-hawk.
I'd put it like this:

- NATO is most definitely better off under Biden
- the US domestic economy would very likely handle the fallout from the war better under Trump
- Ukraine would be better off if Trump had been able to deter the war, but significantly worse off than under Biden if not
- I don't think it would have made a large difference for Europe's economy





Quote (Goomshill @ 9 Apr 2022 11:29)
The world markets already adjusted for realization that oil markets weren't actually blowing up. That we aren't actually changing anything that matters. Countries that buy and sell the lifeblood resources are still buying and selling them, same sources, same destinations. I think the biggest threat is the world realizing how toothless the american economic threat is under Biden. We huffed and we puffed and we didnt scratch Russia. What does that say American hegemony and the petrodollar? We already accelerated a switch to alternate reserve currencies by throwing up a market barrier that other countries like India immediately circumvented without any resistance from us. Why should the crown prince feel obligated to pick up the phone? What are we going to do?

Stop arms sales to SA, threaten to prop up their big rival Iran. Unfortunately, the Biden admin had already done the latter anyway, so that this option is no longer a bargaining chip. And the crunch on the energy markets also took away his leverage in the negotiations with Iran, so that we get the worst of both worlds: an emboldened Iran and OPEC refusing to pump more.

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Quote (ferdia @ 9 Apr 2022 17:02)
no probably about it.

I like these posts of yours XD


Bro when you are back online watch this for 5 mins.
It is quite funny.

USA and Europe bankrolling Russia in this current war.
But just take it as a pinch of salt.

I dont think, CNN,FOX,MSNBC or any American News will give you a clear picture
Neither do the News in the West
You can't trust Russia and China news either.

So I ended up watching the Taiwanese and Indians

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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 9 2022 04:02am)
Bro when you are back online watch this for 5 mins.
It is quite funny.

USA and Europe bankrolling Russia in this current war.
But just take it as a pinch of salt.

I dont think, CNN,FOX,MSNBC or any American News will give you a clear picture
Neither do the News in the West
You can't trust Russia and China news either.

So I ended up watching the Taiwanese and Indians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EplzQrCfdY4



Ssshhhhh don’t tell! It sounds better to say America is supporting Ukraine than it does to say America shut down energy production and pays a premium to Russia because Russia doesn’t deal with up the butt ecoterrorists and overregulation. Just because Europe is paying Putin also, while miraculously managing to export people 3,000 miles OVER Europe to Mexico because it’s easier to illegally break into America than apply for asylum, because 2/3 the world is exporting their waste to our border and overwhelming the system and calling it asylum based on Democrat propaganda offering cell phones, drivers licenses, and destroying the housing economy for millions of Americans who do obey the law. Still not sure why Spain or like, I dunno Ireland, aren’t destinations for people fleeing conflict. But hey, eff me and my country right? At least part of the word isn’t willfully ignorant and reports a bit of reality.
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Quote (justhackitup @ 9 Apr 2022 19:19)
Ssshhhhh don’t tell! It sounds better to say America is supporting Ukraine than it does to say America shut down energy production and pays a premium to Russia because Russia doesn’t deal with up the butt ecoterrorists and overregulation. Just because Europe is paying Putin also, while miraculously managing to export people 3,000 miles OVER Europe to Mexico because it’s easier to illegally break into America than apply for asylum, because 2/3 the world is exporting their waste to our border and overwhelming the system and calling it asylum based on Democrat propaganda offering cell phones, drivers licenses, and destroying the housing economy for millions of Americans who do obey the law. Still not sure why Spain or like, I dunno Ireland, aren’t destinations for people fleeing conflict. But hey, eff me and my country right? At least part of the word isn’t willfully ignorant and reports a bit of reality.


Well to be honest , I always take media and news in the recent past 20 years as a pinch of salt.
But it is really extremely difficult to find a media out let that is being a little more honest.

So in this current situation I can only at least give a little bit of trust to media from countries that are both fairly friendly with both sides.
India is friendly with both the West and Russia.

And the Taiwanese just report whatever, they have some crazy press freedom in Taiwan who doesn't follow political fractions.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 9 2022 04:30am)
Well to be honest , I always take media and news in the recent past 20 years as a pinch of salt.
But it is really extremely difficult to find a media out let that is being a little more honest.

So in this current situation I can only at least give a little bit of trust to media from countries that are both fairly friendly with both sides.
India is friendly with both the West and Russia.

And the Taiwanese just report whatever, they have some crazy press freedom in Taiwan who doesn't follow political fractions.


If I find it again I may post it but I once found a frequently updated news site that only used bullet points. Definitely a different take on the news. Content matters too though. Otherwise you end up with the Milk For Babies and Cute Kittens Act passing with 100% bi-partisan support, only to find it its a bill that increases all Senators wages by 300%.

Thank you Taiwan for a breath of fresh air. Most of the world is buried head first in the sand in 2022. Like I've said before, exploration and discovery are all but dead. The whole world has borders so there is no more expansion without taking over someone else. Willing or not. Events like this will only increase. With instant information its more important than ever that we see the whole picture.
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Quote (justhackitup @ 9 Apr 2022 19:37)
If I find it again I may post it but I once found a frequently updated news site that only used bullet points. Definitely a different take on the news. Content matters too though. Otherwise you end up with the Milk For Babies and Cute Kittens Act passing with 100% bi-partisan support, only to find it its a bill that increases all Senators wages by 300%.

Thank you Taiwan for a breath of fresh air. Most of the world is buried head first in the sand in 2022. Like I've said before, exploration and discovery are all but dead. The whole world has borders so there is no more expansion without taking over someone else. Willing or not. Events like this will only increase. With instant information its more important than ever that we see the whole picture.


By the way

France and Italy responded to Arnab's and Zelensky interview 2 days back.
And they are willing to be guarantors.

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Apr 9 2022 05:57am
Well that’s good! I don’t get that news here.
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Quote (justhackitup @ Apr 9 2022 12:19pm)
Ssshhhhh don’t tell! It sounds better to say America is supporting Ukraine than it does to say America shut down energy production and pays a premium to Russia because Russia doesn’t deal with up the butt ecoterrorists and overregulation. Just because Europe is paying Putin also, while miraculously managing to export people 3,000 miles OVER Europe to Mexico because it’s easier to illegally break into America than apply for asylum, because 2/3 the world is exporting their waste to our border and overwhelming the system and calling it asylum based on Democrat propaganda offering cell phones, drivers licenses, and destroying the housing economy for millions of Americans who do obey the law. Still not sure why Spain or like, I dunno Ireland, aren’t destinations for people fleeing conflict. But hey, eff me and my country right? At least part of the word isn’t willfully ignorant and reports a bit of reality.


These figures are from the internet so presume poetic licence has been used by various sites. I am merely providing context.

Ireland: Population: 4.9Million. Size: 70,000km sq'd. Ukrainian refugees in Ireland: 20,000+ (as of start April)
England: Population: 55Million. Size: 130,000 km sq'd. Ukrainian refugees in England: 12,000+'s (also note: 25,000 visa's granted). i assume this will translate to people and I assume this does not include scotland and wales.
Spain: Population: 47Million. Size: 505,000km dq'd: Ukrainian refugees in Spain: 25,000+ (as of April)
USA: Population: 329 Million. Size: 9,834,000 km sq'd. Ukrainian refugees in USA: 8,758 (as of end March).

Poland is ofc #1 for opening the door to Ukrainian Refugees and I applaud them for their efforts. I live in Ireland and I would like to think we have our doors open. England lawmakers and US lawmakers are not fans of inviting refugees which is why their numbers are always low.

If you have different numbers for these countries just post them.

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Quote (ferdia @ 9 Apr 2022 20:02)
These figures are from the internet so presume poetic licence has been used by various sites. I am merely providing context.

Ireland: Population: 4.9Million. Size: 70,000km sq'd. Ukrainian refugees in Ireland: 20,000+ (as of start April)
England: Population: 55Million. Size: 130,000 km sq'd. Ukrainian visa's granted: 25,000 (i assume this will translate to people and I assume this does not include scotland and wales).
Spain: Population: 47Million. Size: 505,000km dq'd: Ukrainian refugees in Spain: 25,000+ (as of April)
USA: Population: 329 Million. Size: 9,834,000 km sq'd. Ukrainian refugees in USA: 8,758 (as of end March).

Poland is ofc #1 for opening the door to Ukrainian Refugees and I applaud them for their efforts. I live in Ireland and I would like to think we have our doors open. England and the USA are not fans of inviting refugees which is why their numbers are always low.


It always amaze me why the America is always in the fore front of so many conflicts yet most of the refugees ended up in Europe.
But that is just some of the information I get, but I might be wrong.
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Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Apr 9 2022 01:09pm)
It always amaze me why the America is always in the fore front of so many conflicts yet most of the refugees ended up in Europe.
But that is just some of the information I get, but I might be wrong.


more internet information: https://www.unhcr.org/refugee-statistics/
America is #1 on the planet for other things. ;)

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