Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 27 2020 09:59pm)

Because unlike Wyoming the aggregation in DC has magnitudes more power and political pull over the entire nation. So to give these people even more government control seems counter democratic to me.

Quote (Cannabist @ Oct 28 2020 01:59pm)

Not like you hope it is.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 27 2020 11:01pm)

Using that logic businesses have more political pull over the nation, so they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

I can justify any number of weird positions using that logic, because it's just a really bad argument.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 27 2020 10:05pm)

You're using the word logic wrong. There's nothing logical about what you just said.

Quote (thundercock @ Oct 27 2020 09:32pm)

If we carve out a couple city blocks in DC, the population would still exceed 700k. It'd be a small state, but larger than Vermont and Wyoming. DC already has the same representation in the electoral college so is there any reason why these folks shouldn't have their own state besides partisan reasons related to the Senate?

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But perhaps there’s something else going on here, as Americans haven’t always been opposed to adding new states. For instance, before Alaska became a state in 1959, 71 percent of Americans were in favor of adding it to the Union, according to a Gallup poll from 1957.2 And support for Puerto Rico’s statehood remains higher than support for the District’s. In Gallup’s most recent poll, they found that two-thirds of Americans favor statehood for Puerto Rico.

So it could be that Americans just don’t think of the nation’s capital as a state. In an interview with Politico, Gallup senior editor Jeff Jones said that Americans’ (largely negative) views on the federal government might be influencing the way they think about the District. A Gallup poll from January found that a majority of Americans, 63 percent, said they have “not very much” or no trust in the federal government’s ability to handle domestic problems, and, Jones said, it’s possible that this attitude “rains down on D.C.’s population and local government.”

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 28 2020 02:00am)

https://news.gallup.com/poll/260129/americans-reject-statehood.aspx

In a 2019 poll, 29% of respondents favored DC statehood, 64% opposed it, 8% had no opinion.
If support for it is suddenly much higher now, in 2020, this is almost definitely due to Democrats realizing the partisan power grab involved in granting DC statehood.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-dont-americans-want-d-c-to-be-a-state/

Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 27 2020 09:49pm)

Only to someone without an ounce of intelligence.

Quote (thundercock @ 28 Oct 2020 11:07)

It'd be interesting to see what the Dems do if they come up with an actual proposal (maps, sample state constitution, etc.) At the moment, I think a lot of people don't like the idea of the Capitol, WH, etc. being part of a state. The key is to create a compelling narrative for why it should be a state so that you can hide the obvious power grab that it entails.

Quote (thundercock @ Oct 27 2020 09:57pm)

I don't know to be honest. Perhaps there is a worry that DC would have too much influence on Maryland politics and they'd lose their identity. To me, that was the most sensible thing to do but it polls in the low 20s. Anyway, the reality is that Republicans would be hurt by this but I don't think that is a good enough reason to keep people disenfranchised.