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People under the age of 40 dont need the vaccine.


you must listen to tucker nightly
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People under the age of 40 dont need the vaccine.


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People over 40 do need the vaccine.

The difference between our culture and China is that in America you’re told the truth and are held responsible for the consequences. In China youre manipulated into believing what the state wants.

These issues puzzle me when you harp on them, its like you never read Brave New World or Fahrenheit 451.

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People over 40 do need the vaccine.

The difference between our culture and China is that in America you’re told the truth and are held responsible for the consequences. In China youre manipulated into believing what the state wants.

These issues puzzle me when you harp on them, its like you never read Brave New World or Fahrenheit 451.


Based on what?
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Based on what?


Higher death rates, higher superspreader rates.

And lower risks because they have already had children if at all.
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Higher death rates, higher superspreader rates.

And lower risks because they have already had children if at all.


But 30-39 year olds have higher death rates than those younger... so why is the line at 40 and above?

If you're going to contradict all the top experts in the world, you need to give legitimate reasons. Even if people under 40 aren't really dying from this much at all, that's not an argument for not getting vaccinated, particularly because of the nature of how this disease spreads.

Aren't you employed in some scientific field? Lol.

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But 30-39 year olds have higher death rates than those younger... so why is the line at 40 and above?

If you're going to contradict all the top experts in the world, you need to give legitimate reasons. Even if people under 40 aren't really dying from this much at all, that's not an argument for not getting vaccinated, particularly because of the nature of how this disease spreads.

Aren't you employed in some scientific field? Lol.


Spread doesn't matter at that point, because all of the older people are already vaccinated. No one will die so cases dont matter anymore.

I know far more about game theory, probability, hysteresis than you likely. Most people don't understand a bell curve and its implications on the nature of defining truth.

The WHO and people like Fauci have admitted to lying and lying over and over in addition to being inaccurate because of CCP bribery, so I trust my instincts. If anything that is the biggest discovery of this past two years - the utter distrust of any centralized system. These systems aren't your friends, they are mechanical beaurocracies that view you as cattle for harvesting.

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Spread doesn't matter at that point, because all of the older people are already vaccinated. No one will die so cases dont matter anymore.

I know far more about game theory, probability, hysteresis than you likely. Most people don't understand a bell curve and its implications on the nature of defining truth.

The WHO and people like Fauci have admitted to lying and lying over and over in addition to being inaccurate because of CCP bribery, so I trust my instincts. If anything that is the biggest discovery of this past two years - the utter distrust of any centralized system. These systems aren't your friends, they are mechanical beaurocracies that view you as cattle for harvesting.


I don't see any reason to go against the top expert opinion. We don't live in a world where everyone over a certain age gets vaccinated, and even if we did, COVID still can kill people under 40, and the more it spreads, the more we have a chance of seeing variants resistant to the vaccine.

So I ask again, do you have any good reason to oppose individuals under 40 getting vaccinated? Is there a legitimate reason for people under 40 to not get vaccinated?

Is there any reason, outside of the Trump culture war against the vaccines that his administration approved, that you oppose vaccinations?
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I don't see any reason to go against the top expert opinion. We don't live in a world where everyone over a certain age gets vaccinated, and even if we did, COVID still can kill people under 40, and the more it spreads, the more we have a chance of seeing variants resistant to the vaccine.

So I ask again, do you have any good reason to oppose individuals under 40 getting vaccinated? Is there a legitimate reason for people under 40 to not get vaccinated?

Is there any reason, outside of the Trump culture war against the vaccines that his administration approved, that you oppose vaccinations?


ive run into this a lot and people seem to think that more people under 40 getting it and beating it is better than vaccine immunity, which seems to go against mutation chances.

we want less people getting it, regardless of survival rate, at this point in the fight against covid. early on herd immunity pre vaccine was a solid goal if done safely, it isnt now, and people dont seem able to adjust.
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