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Feb 20 2020 08:50pm
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Feb 19 2020 11:53am)
Bull. No wall. No executive order on birthright citizenship. No mandatory E-Verify. No deportation of DREAMers. Bump stock ban. No reversal of demographic changes. Tax cuts for billionaires while the middle class gets shafted. Unlimited support of Israel. Unleashing criminals back into communities. Constant pandering to black voters. Trump had a chance, but he's a big, fat disappointment. And I'm not even willing to accept that it's people trying to obstruct his efforts. He's in on it. He's the same as most other shitty Republican presidents, at least he hasn't started a war.

The ironic thing about Trump is the people who most love his current policy agenda, the Ben Shapiros, Charlie Kirks, Glen Becks, were the ones who relentlessly railed against Trump during the election. They didn't see the light and start agreeing with Trump's campaign talk. They're realized that Trump's campaign talk was bullshit and that he was just enacting the agenda they wanted. Republicans wanted a champion for middle class working white voters, instead they got the King of Israel™.

At least Bernie might actually enact policy to aid the white middle class. His policies would also ensure a white minority (which never ends well), but at least people could get healthcare and potentially live a bit more comfortably for a few years while they watch the nation they once knew transform into a multinational dumping ground.

you should at least try looking at the link i posted. i'll post it again, can you make claims that i am wrong in this thread?
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=82567104&f=119

pointing out some things that wasn't done is fine, but you're ignoring a magnitude of it. and you're just plain wrong about the wall.
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Feb 22 2020 08:01am
Debates didn't go well for Bloomberg. Sanders still the frontrunner. Sorry billionaires. You tried.
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Feb 22 2020 08:51am
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Feb 22 2020 09:01am)
Debates didn't go well for Bloomberg. Sanders still the frontrunner. Sorry billionaires. You tried.


I heard Bloomberg is releasing people from confidentiality agreements he harassed for some reason. Why did he think it was a good idea to run as a Democrat lol.
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Feb 22 2020 09:56am
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I heard Bloomberg is releasing people from confidentiality agreements he harassed for some reason. Why did he think it was a good idea to run as a Democrat lol.


Because he's scared of Bernie basically. Like all the billionaires. Prepare for the stock market to take a hit if Bernie wins.

He was shilling for Trump in 2016, he supported Bush. He's basically a moderate republican. But he's got a lot of money and America is a pseudo oligarchy, as Jimmy Carter once said in fact, so he can buy his way onto the debate stage. Once there though he fucking tanked. Lost 3 points at least since Nevada. Biggest loss of all the candidates. Name recognition gonna get him a long way though. Will be interesting to see what happens at the convention... If it's a brokered convention I can see democrats picking him because they all buy into the narrative that he can beat Trump... but if his debate performance in Nevada is anything to go by the Trump machine is gonna fucking carve him to pieces both on stage and in the media.
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Feb 22 2020 10:23am
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Feb 22 2020 10:56am)
Because he's scared of Bernie basically. Like all the billionaires. Prepare for the stock market to take a hit if Bernie wins.

He was shilling for Trump in 2016, he supported Bush. He's basically a moderate republican. But he's got a lot of money and America is a pseudo oligarchy, as Jimmy Carter once said in fact, so he can buy his way onto the debate stage. Once there though he fucking tanked. Lost 3 points at least since Nevada. Biggest loss of all the candidates. Name recognition gonna get him a long way though. Will be interesting to see what happens at the convention... If it's a brokered convention I can see democrats picking him because they all buy into the narrative that he can beat Trump... but if his debate performance in Nevada is anything to go by the Trump machine is gonna fucking carve him to pieces both on stage and in the media.


The people will get punished by billionaires if they elect Sanders just like the people were punished by Anthem, Aetna, Humana, UMR, United Healthcare, Medical Mutual, etc, for electing Obama.

What they are claiming about the economy if Sanders gets elected is more of a threat and self-fulfilling prophecy rather an actual ramifications.

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Feb 22 2020 10:30am
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The people will get punished by billionaires if they elect Sanders just like the people were punished by Anthem, Aetna, Humana, UMR, United Healthcare, Medical Mutual, etc, for electing Obama.

What they are claiming about the economy if Sanders gets elected is more of a threat and self-fulfilling prophecy rather an actual ramifications.


Its more of a threat mostly because Sanders completely lacks the political clout to ram his policy proposals through the meat grinder. Whether universal healthcare would blow up the economy or not- we won't find out when less than a quarter of congress stands for it, and any attemp to play King Bernie I would get slapped down by the conservative courts. But the psychological impacts on the markets, the lack of confidence and unwillingness to invest and feeling unprotected and vulnerable to his economic policies- that threat would get delivered on
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Feb 22 2020 11:01am
Another factor to keep in mind is that Bernie will most likely hurt dowballot Democrats in those states that are crucial for the Senate, and to a lesser degree also the House. With a socialist threatening to become president, a lot of centrist or swing voters will go with the GOP candidate for the Senate just to make sure that Bernie cant enact his crazy policies.
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Feb 22 2020 11:07am
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Another factor to keep in mind is that Bernie will most likely hurt dowballot Democrats in those states that are crucial for the Senate, and to a lesser degree also the House. With a socialist threatening to become president, a lot of centrist or swing voters will go with the GOP candidate for the Senate just to make sure that Bernie cant enact his crazy policies.


In bold: awesome buzzwords formula !
For sure Murica is divided, doesn't means they all want to move even more forward on the path of an hazardous bigoted inequality to avoid Sanders plan.
Especially if he takes a more likely moderated one as VP

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Feb 22 2020 06:04pm
Chris Matthews literally falling apart on MSNBC comparing Bernie's projected success in Nevada to the rise of the Nazis.

'It's over', he says. Let's hope he's right.
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Feb 22 2020 06:08pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Feb 22 2020 04:04pm)
Chris Matthews literally falling apart on MSNBC comparing Bernie's projected success in Nevada to the rise of the Nazis.

'It's over', he says. Let's hope he's right.


Yea, MSNBC is having a complete meltdown. I don't know why these pundits are so emotionally invested in these sort of things. A Sanders presidency doesn't scare me at all because he'll get next to nothing done. America, by design, moves incredibly slowly.
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