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Quote (excellence @ Mar 26 2019 08:23am)
most people didn't like McCain and Rmoney period, McCain ran into 2008 Obama sure so good luck winning there, but Rmoney man that idiot (like the racist he is) wrote off 47% of the population just like that. didn't even bother trying to get their vote. that and he abused his dog. two non-starters when it comes to trying to win a Presidential election. then he still has some wiggle room to win and he spent the entire 2nd debate debating the fucking moderator :rofl:


No dog abuser will ever get my vote.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ 25 Mar 2019 17:57)
No dog abuser will ever get my vote.



well said my down under friend
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Quote (excellence @ Mar 25 2019 02:23pm)
most people didn't like McCain and Rmoney period, McCain ran into 2008 Obama sure so good luck winning there, but Rmoney man that idiot (like the racist he is) wrote off 47% of the population just like that. didn't even bother trying to get their vote. that and he abused his dog. two non-starters when it comes to trying to win a Presidential election. then he still has some wiggle room to win and he spent the entire 2nd debate debating the fucking moderator :rofl:


McCain would have won if it weren't for Sarah Palin.
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McCain would have won if it weren't for Sarah Palin.


Doubtful.
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McCain would have won if it weren't for Sarah Palin.

You really think so ? I don’t, haha.

Obama won electorally 365 - 173.

Who do you think McCain could have picked that would have swung all those states back his way ?
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Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Mar 25 2019 03:51pm)
People keep saying Trump lowers the bar. He is an ass a lot of the time and I'm still going to blast him every day he fails to fulfill his campaign promises. That being said, his election reveals a lot of political sentiment that establishment candidates weren't talking about. The two previous failed Republican Presidential candidates both came out against Trump in very harsh ways. McCain and Romney were pure never Trump. These were the guys in line to be the head of the Republican Party in 2008 and 2012. Republicans didn't show up to vote for them, Trump got an extra three million to show up over R-Money and McSame. The establishment is out of touch with the base, McCain called the base crazies, no Republicans outside of Utah like Romney.


You can't simultaneously claim that Hillary was a horrible candidate, and Trump was the only guy who could beat her. He appealed to the loons in the Republican primary, and rode his personality cult into the presidency. If you wanted the most conservative candidate, it was Cruz. If you wanted the libertarian, anti-war choice, it was Rand. If you wanted the outsider with the best one-liners, and the most simple solutions, and the built-in television fame, it was the orange man.
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You can't simultaneously claim that Hillary was a horrible candidate, and Trump was the only guy who could beat her. He appealed to the loons in the Republican primary, and rode his personality cult into the presidency. If you wanted the most conservative candidate, it was Cruz. If you wanted the libertarian, anti-war choice, it was Rand. If you wanted the outsider with the best one-liners, and the most simple solutions, and the built-in television fame, it was the orange man.


and if I wanted someone who was trade protectionist, an immigration skeptic, anti-interventionalist, less authoritarian, not trying to legislate morality and not an idealogue who would march into the sea- who was it?
People didn't want establishment neocons or full blown cons selling them out to China and they didn't want crackpots trying to abolish the fed and bring back the gold standard
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Mar 25 2019 06:28pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Mar 25 2019 03:33pm)
McCain would have won if it weren't for Sarah Palin.


No he wouldn't. You clearly didn't live in Arizona. We witnessed the degradation of McCain's mind real time. We watched as he forgot who he was, what he believed in, and what he stood for. We still stood by him, to the end, because the alternatives at the state level weren't viable.

The guy was a joke, and anybody who would have voted for him as President was an idiot.

Obama was the clear choice, hands down, and Palin had nothing to do with it.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Mar 25 2019 06:28pm
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and if I wanted someone who was trade protectionist, an immigration skeptic, anti-interventionalist, less authoritarian, not trying to legislate morality and not an idealogue who would march into the sea- who was it?
People didn't want establishment neocons or full blown cons selling them out to China and they didn't want crackpots trying to abolish the fed and bring back the gold standard


Pat Buchanan.
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Pat Buchanan.


Was David Duke not available?



This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 25 2019 06:42pm
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