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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 10 2024 10:53pm)
The Ukraine war is worse than ww2 for Russia because Peter Zeihan.


In terms of their demographic position they are in a worse place now than they were after WW2. Their population pyramid is horrid.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 11 2024 01:04am)
In terms of their demographic position they are in a worse place now than they were after WW2. Their population pyramid is horrid.


The walls are closing in!!!!!1!
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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Jan 10 2024 11:13pm)
The walls are closing in!!!!!1!


Weird how you can't acknowledge any issues, even ones that the Russian bank themselves acknowledge.
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The Ukraine war is worse than ww2 for Russia because Peter Zeihan.


"You don't mess with Zeihan"
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Weird how you can't acknowledge any issues, even ones that the Russian bank themselves acknowledge.


Every country has issues, that doesn't mean I need to accept midwit reddit opinions from someone who seems to consistently have the worst possible opinions on any given topic.

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"You don't mess with Zeihan"


Zeihan is the wests true secret weapon, nukes are a thing of the past
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 11 2024 05:04am)
In terms of their demographic position they are in a worse place now than they were after WW2. Their population pyramid is horrid.


I am sorry I have not been following this conversation closely.

As I understand it, Russia is a less developed country compared to others, and more developed compared to others. It is a massive country, twice the size of the US (19m sq vs 7m sq) with a population less then half of the US (143m vs 33x m). It does not have a "made in Taiwan" reputation and has been quite introverted, or not relevant / irrelevant, until recently. It has natural resources yes, and if it had a leader who had the same mindset as the Chinese currently, we would see a massive explosion of relevance, productivity etc etc.

The fact that Russia does not do much, (i.e throw its weight around) does not however tell me that it is going the way of the dodo. It just does not have the same motivation as the US. Different culture, different outlook. Finally no one is disputing that the Russian leadership is fundamentally flawed, but the suggestion, that has been voiced repeatedly over the last few years that Russia is finished, is not credible.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 11 2024 08:00am
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I am sorry I have not been following this conversation closely.

As I understand it, Russia is a less developed country compared to others, and more developed compared to others. It is a massive country, twice the size of the US (19m sq vs 7m sq) with a population less then half of the US (143m vs 33x m). It does not have a "made in Taiwan" reputation and has been quite introverted, or not relevant / irrelevant, until recently. It has natural resources yes, and if it had a leader who had the same mindset as the Chinese currently, we would see a massive explosion of relevance, productivity etc etc.

The fact that Russia does not do much, (i.e throw its weight around) does not however tell me that it is going the way of the dodo. It just does not have the same motivation as the US. Different culture, different outlook. Finally no one is disputing that the Russian leadership is fundamentally flawed, but the suggestion, that has been voiced repeatedly over the last few years that Russia is finished, is not credible.


Imho it's hardly a country, it's a "federation" of different ethnies, very different people, different religions. Nothing like China (minus uigurs LOL FUCK) , European countries, or even U.S

But we can stick on eastern part: Muscovy , or putin's blood land full of Z. Why you think they send to death all these eastern people, especially these minorities who have tendancies to criticize central power ?

I will answer foryou: Because they are the good guys. Bueheheh.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 11 2024 08:44am
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Imho it's hardly a country, it's a "federation" of different ethnies, very different people, different religions. Nothing like China (minus uigurs LOL FUCK) , European countries, or even U.S

But we can stick on eastern part: Muscovy , or putin's blood land full of Z. Why you think they send to death all these eastern people, especially these minorities who have tendancies to criticize central power ?

I will answer foryou: Because they are the good guys. Bueheheh.


A country by your definition is an ethnostate?

Russia is an Empire much like America just not de jure (yet)
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Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 11 2024 02:39pm)
Imho it's hardly a country, it's a "federation" of different ethnies, very different people, different religions. Nothing like China (minus uigurs LOL FUCK) , European countries, or even U.S

But we can stick on eastern part: Muscovy , or putin's blood land full of Z. Why you think they send to death all these eastern people, especially these minorities who have tendancies to criticize central power ?

I will answer foryou: Because they are the good guys. Bueheheh.


By this loose definition India is also not a country, pretty inconvenient for a billion people.
TBH if you call Russia a federation of regions thats not too far from then saying that the US is a federation of states, with both being respectively, ethnic Russian, or ethnic American.
i.e. semantics.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jan 11 2024 10:56am
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Quote (ferdia @ Jan 11 2024 07:59am)
I am sorry I have not been following this conversation closely.

As I understand it, Russia is a less developed country compared to others, and more developed compared to others. It is a massive country, twice the size of the US (19m sq vs 7m sq) with a population less then half of the US (143m vs 33x m). It does not have a "made in Taiwan" reputation and has been quite introverted, or not relevant / irrelevant, until recently. It has natural resources yes, and if it had a leader who had the same mindset as the Chinese currently, we would see a massive explosion of relevance, productivity etc etc.

The fact that Russia does not do much, (i.e throw its weight around) does not however tell me that it is going the way of the dodo. It just does not have the same motivation as the US. Different culture, different outlook. Finally no one is disputing that the Russian leadership is fundamentally flawed, but the suggestion, that has been voiced repeatedly over the last few years that Russia is finished, is not credible.


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