Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 10 2024 04:50pm)
Virtually every industrialized country has a demographic issue, even China. There are still varying degrees of demographic issues, and in Russia and Ukraine, they're particularly pronounced.This is magnified even further since Russia is a vast and badly underpopulated country while the West is densely populated, even overpopulated in many regions. Yes, places like Western Europe, Japan or South Korea would be hurt economically and fiscally from a reduction of their population, but would also benefit in a lot of other ways (housing, less strain on soils and the infrastructure). For Russia, a population decline has exclusively negative consequences.
And while Russia is obviously still able to get unqualified laborers from Central Asia or China, it is mostly unable to attract any qualified immigrants. By contrast, the West is highly attractive to all kinds of immigrants, even professionals.
To lump them in the same category is nonsensical. Ukraine was a country of 43 million pre-war that lost something like 15 million people, most of them leaving due to the war. Vast majority of the people that left Ukraine were the rich, young and educated, with the old, children and many of the poor/unable to leave. Sad, but that's the honest reality of it.
In contrast Russia saw no where near the declines on a percentage basis. They maybe lost up to ~1 million people leaving to avoid the draft or liberals that disagree with the war, which is way less than the actual people added (given 1/3 of all Ukrainian refugees went to Russia and they also added a fair amount of people from Donbas/Crimea annexation)
And as others have pointed out, their fertility rates are on par with most of Europe. Russia's fertility rate is identical at ~1.5 vs Europe's blended. Your own country and other western wealthier states basically have on par fertility rates because a lot of migrants/refugees coming there from Africa, ME, etc have really high fertility rates. If you were to split away non ethnic Germans, non-ethnic English, French, etc. what you do you think those countries fertility rate would be? You realize they'd be below Russia's right?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/612074/fertility-rates-in-european-countries/This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jan 10 2024 07:31pm