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Jan 5 2024 06:23pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 5 Jan 2024 16:16)
Oil demand/pricing is typically seasonally sensitive with late fall being the slow season. If they're hitting 8 month highs now, probably means they'll see robust oil demand during Spring/Summer. Commodities revenue for Russia really remains the engine for this war. As long as they keep making money, hard to see how their war production will wane.

https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/russian-fuel-exports-hit-eight-month-high

The Gaza war and the situation in the Red Sea put upward pressure on global oil/gas prices. Good for Russia, but I expect both issues to be solved within the next 3-4 months.


Quote (do_NaUKI @ 5 Jan 2024 16:27)
I cannot understand why Ukraine continues this senseless war. Why don't they stop it? They are the only ones who can end the war.

Indeed, only Ukraine can end it. There is absolutely no way for Putin to unilaterally end this war. If the Russian troops went home, the bloodthirsty Ukrainian savages would immediately try to invade and devastate Russia - oh wait, by your own admission, they are so weak that they're no match for the mighty Russian military, not even with home field advantage. :rofl:

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 5 2024 06:23pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 6 Jan 2024 03:23)
The Gaza war and the situation in the Red Sea put upward pressure on global oil/gas prices. Good for Russia, but I expect both issues to be solved within the next 3-4 months.



Indeed, only Ukraine can end it. There is absolutely no way for Putin to unilaterally end this war. If the Russian troops went home, the bloodthirsty Ukrainian savages would immediately try to invade and devastate Russia - oh wait, by your own admission, they are so weak that they're no match for the mighty Russian military, not even with home field advantage. :rofl:


This is not football and if you see the ball flying, it means someone has stepped on a mine.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 5 2024 06:23pm)
The Gaza war and the situation in the Red Sea put upward pressure on global oil/gas prices. Good for Russia, but I expect both issues to be solved within the next 3-4 months.


It's hard to get numbers but on the low end Russia needs $80 a barrel for crude to break even after drilling and transporting cost, but it could be as high as $110. It's hard to tell given the variable cost and increased complexity of having multiple intermediaries now.

The interesting fact though is even if they lose money they don't have much option to stop. So much of the Russian workforce is dedicated to oil drilling and refinement that even if you lose $10 a barrel, that's basically just a cost to keep people employed rather than sending a million people to the streets.

This means even if Russia loses money, they will continue drilling and bleed their reserves in the process. Which puts into perspective how detrimental an increased volume can be in the higher cost post-sanctions environment.

They also really want to sell refined products rather than crude products for the same reason. More workers employed, higher premiums since you've now put it through the refinement process.

And their natural gas revenues have gotten incredibly low which means a high margin easy transport source of revenue to subsidize the other fossil fuel operations during down times is gone.

Overall it's hard to say how badly Russia is hurt by sanctions and such, but you have to really stretch to maybe assume they are breaking even. In all likelyhood they are slightly losing money at current oil prices.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jan 6 2024 02:23am)
The Gaza war and the situation in the Red Sea put upward pressure on global oil/gas prices. Good for Russia, but I expect both issues to be solved within the next 3-4 months.



Indeed, only Ukraine can end it. There is absolutely no way for Putin to unilaterally end this war. If the Russian troops went home, the bloodthirsty Ukrainian savages would immediately try to invade and devastate Russia - oh wait, by your own admission, they are so weak that they're no match for the mighty Russian military, not even with home field advantage. :rofl:


tell me one reason why would Putin quit it? He is winning and will win that war. You think Connor Mcgregor should stop hitting in middle of fight "ohh i could stop hurting my opponent and just stop fight and lose fight and go home and make me look like idiot" :rofl:
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 5 2024 11:47pm)
It's hard to get numbers but on the low end Russia needs $80 a barrel for crude to break even after drilling and transporting cost, but it could be as high as $110. It's hard to tell given the variable cost and increased complexity of having multiple intermediaries now.

The interesting fact though is even if they lose money they don't have much option to stop. So much of the Russian workforce is dedicated to oil drilling and refinement that even if you lose $10 a barrel, that's basically just a cost to keep people employed rather than sending a million people to the streets.

This means even if Russia loses money, they will continue drilling and bleed their reserves in the process. Which puts into perspective how detrimental an increased volume can be in the higher cost post-sanctions environment.

They also really want to sell refined products rather than crude products for the same reason. More workers employed, higher premiums since you've now put it through the refinement process.

And their natural gas revenues have gotten incredibly low which means a high margin easy transport source of revenue to subsidize the other fossil fuel operations during down times is gone.

Overall it's hard to say how badly Russia is hurt by sanctions and such, but you have to really stretch to maybe assume they are breaking even. In all likelyhood they are slightly losing money at current oil prices.


Wildly inaccurate

I mean you could simply google some of these things instead of posting nonsense?


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This work was led by my colleague Catherine Wolfram, who was the deputy assistant secretary for climate and energy at Treasury. Russian oil has a very low marginal cost to produce. To the best of our knowledge, the marginal cost of producing oil in Russia is around $5 to $10 per barrel. When you take into account some of the more marginal wells, then maybe it’s closer to $20. The Russian government then collects various royalties and taxes that they impose on their producers, and we know that for budget-planning purposes they would usually target a break-even price of around $40 per barrel.


https://www.minneapolisfed.org/article/2023/how-the-oil-price-cap-balances-pain-for-russia-with-protecting-us-consumers


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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jan 5 2024 08:47pm)
It's hard to get numbers but on the low end Russia needs $80 a barrel for crude to break even after drilling and transporting cost, but it could be as high as $110. It's hard to tell given the variable cost and increased complexity of having multiple intermediaries now.

The interesting fact though is even if they lose money they don't have much option to stop. So much of the Russian workforce is dedicated to oil drilling and refinement that even if you lose $10 a barrel, that's basically just a cost to keep people employed rather than sending a million people to the streets.

This means even if Russia loses money, they will continue drilling and bleed their reserves in the process. Which puts into perspective how detrimental an increased volume can be in the higher cost post-sanctions environment.

They also really want to sell refined products rather than crude products for the same reason. More workers employed, higher premiums since you've now put it through the refinement process.

And their natural gas revenues have gotten incredibly low which means a high margin easy transport source of revenue to subsidize the other fossil fuel operations during down times is gone.

Overall it's hard to say how badly Russia is hurt by sanctions and such, but you have to really stretch to maybe assume they are breaking even. In all likelyhood they are slightly losing money at current oil prices.


I mean this with all possible affection. Are you actually an AI? You've got to be. I'm not an expert on AI, but it seems like you're able to glean talking points from corporate press and spit out paragraphs that appear to be some loose analogue of independent human thought.
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Quote (do_NaUKI @ Jan 5 2024 06:33pm)
I mean that clown Zelensky could save thousands of Ukrainean people just by surrendering. Whats better, surrender and save most people OR go to hopeless war and kill half of his army until he is forced to surrender?
he is just too proud to admit the facts that ukraine will lose the war, he obviously wants to be a martyr


Like I said, your country hasn't been invaded by a dictator. Obviously you think surrendering to the dictator is better. Myself and the majority of Ukraine disagree with you. Putin could save hundreds of thousands of Russians if he withdrew from his losing military operation.
Simple as that.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ 6 Jan 2024 05:47)
It's hard to get numbers but on the low end Russia needs $80 a barrel for crude to break even after drilling and transporting cost, but it could be as high as $110. It's hard to tell given the variable cost and increased complexity of having multiple intermediaries now.

The interesting fact though is even if they lose money they don't have much option to stop. So much of the Russian workforce is dedicated to oil drilling and refinement that even if you lose $10 a barrel, that's basically just a cost to keep people employed rather than sending a million people to the streets.

This means even if Russia loses money, they will continue drilling and bleed their reserves in the process. Which puts into perspective how detrimental an increased volume can be in the higher cost post-sanctions environment.

They also really want to sell refined products rather than crude products for the same reason. More workers employed, higher premiums since you've now put it through the refinement process.

And their natural gas revenues have gotten incredibly low which means a high margin easy transport source of revenue to subsidize the other fossil fuel operations during down times is gone.

Overall it's hard to say how badly Russia is hurt by sanctions and such, but you have to really stretch to maybe assume they are breaking even. In all likelyhood they are slightly losing money at current oil prices.


First of all, let’s start out with a disclaimer, you changed your name to sound like a generic Twitter bot. Why lol.

Your whole post seems to be written by ChatGPT. Every paragraph is wrong.

1) Russian breakeven crude oil production FOB export price is between 20 to 35$ depending on location and production field. You seem to confuse it with fiscal breakeven price for the budget which is determined by the budget, not the oil price. People that balance the budget have to assume some price of crude going forward as nobody can predict it and use that number to make budgetary decisions. Current average crude oil price is about $80 indeed.

Russian REBCO (Urals) crude oil has always traded at a discount to BFOE as it’s a heavy sour. ESPO is better and stuff like Sokol and Arctic Light trades at a premium.

2) Data on employment within Russian oil & gas industry says the following:
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Only 229 thousand people are involved in the oil and gas sector, or 0.5% of all those working in Russia, including 175 thousand people work in oil production, and 53.7 thousand people are involved in gas production.
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3) You can’t stop oil wells that’s true due to the way this tech works as shuttering an oil well damages it, but you can shutter gas wells pretty easily. Gas is consumed domestically to heat and generate electricity.

4) Russia refines oil products first and foremost because its a huge country with domestic market that needs a lot of driving. Whatever is not needed domestically like fuel oil and VGO is exported. Russian jet fuel TS-1 is one of the hidden reasons Russias air superiority is a thing in this conflict.

5) Russian gas is majority produced by Gazprom that satisfies domestic markets FIRST before exporting. Gazprom is still stupidly profitable, (earning 4bn net in q3 2023).

This post was edited by Malopox on Jan 6 2024 05:50am
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Quote (Malopox @ 6 Jan 2024 19:38)
First of all, let’s start out with a disclaimer, you changed your name to sound like a generic Twitter bot. Why lol. https://i.imgur.com/HshP5r2.jpg

Your whole post seems to be written by ChatGPT. Every paragraph is wrong.

1) Russian breakeven crude oil production FOB export price is between 20 to 35$ depending on location and production field. You seem to confuse it with fiscal breakeven price for the budget which is determined by the budget, not the oil price. People that balance the budget have to assume some price of crude going forward as nobody can predict it and use that number to make budgetary decisions. Current average crude oil price is about $80 indeed.

Russian REBCO (Urals) crude oil has always traded at a discount to BFOE as it’s a heavy sour. ESPO is better and stuff like Sokol and Arctic Light trades at a premium.

2) Data on employment within Russian oil & gas industry says the following:
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3) You can’t stop oil wells that’s true due to the way this tech works as shuttering an oil well damages it, but you can shutter gas wells pretty easily. Gas is consumed domestically to heat and generate electricity.

4) Russia refines oil products first and foremost because its a huge country with domestic market that needs a lot of driving. Whatever is not needed domestically like fuel oil and VGO is exported. Russian jet fuel TS-1 is one of the hidden reasons Russias air superiority is a thing in this conflict.

5) Russian gas is majority produced by Gazprom that satisfies domestic markets FIRST before exporting. Gazprom is still stupidly profitable, (earning 4bn net in q3 2023).


Finally our resident commodity banker said something . :lol:
A lot better than listening to some Starbucks Barista who is an expert in ChatGpt economics. There are a few professional Barista here by the way. B)
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