Spiegel:

https://www.spiegel.de/ausland/ukraine-krieg-nur-sehr-geringe-zahl-leopard-panzer-wohl-noch-im-kampf-einsatz-a-4af130dd-6c94-48dc-a23d-9a388285407d

Most of the Leopard 2 “game changer” tanks are either destroyed or are damaged and require repair.

These were supposed to be a game changer. But too few. Too slowly. They ultimately made no difference

"HIMARS with two direct hits destroys the rare and newest artillery reconnaissance complex 1K148 "Yastreb-AV" of the Russian Armed Forces worth about $250 million."



This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Jan 3 2024 10:04am

At least the tank won't need repairs.

I see you're still waiting for the "corpsicles" which you already predicted to litter the streets of Kyiv at the end of last winter.

Yep fucking animals-terrorists, right.

This is something I've been following. The idea of having these tanks without the logistical backend of supply/support was always ludicrous. Getting the leos/f16s was always a publicity stunt.

Ukrainians have done exceptionally well with the toys they've been given but the spare parts they need are currently being hoarded by the west because it's too valuable to give up.

Another strategy that the West still hasn't caught up to is the fact that drone warfare makes most aps systems on tanks useless so without modern aa guarding tanks they essentially become sitting ducks. Ukraine needs missles/drones not tanks and aircraft

Perhaps your not seeing the Ukrainian drone footage.

And what does that footage prove on a macro level? That’s the thing about relying on random footage here and there. Looking at these proverbial trees you can be tricked into believing that Ukraine is winning when the forest clearly shows they’re not. Russian missile, artillery and drone superiority is not up for debate and random videos showing blown Russian hardware don’t change that fact.

Zorzin said this "Another strategy that the West still hasn't caught up to is the fact that drone warfare makes most aps systems on tanks useless"
It is a moronic statement anyway but the readily available evidence disproves it thoroughly.

What you are straw manning is something totally different. Besides, the burden of results is on the Russian military.
10 years and half a million casualties for less than 20% of Ukraine's territory, much of which is utterly destroyed.

Many people will try to chalk this up as a win for Russia. But in reality its a mind blowing level of strategic failure on the Russian military's part.