They still earn the full price as they charge the difference in logistics (shipping) and insurance costs.

This way the sale still complies with price cap.

How are natural gas revenues?

oups Belgorod

Just terrible.

And yet this is Ukraines reality for almost 2 years, so expect little sympathy

"their manufacturing is fine", except their planes are barely functional because they can't manufacture specialty parts and are having to cannibalize their passenger planes for them.
"their manufacturing is fine", except the number of produced cars in Russia has dropped over 60% since the war started hasn't recovered
"their manufacturing is fine", except the already declining number of workers who can do the manufacturing has been further decreased by sending working age men into the meat grinder.

I know you have some weird boner for Russia, but sanctions have been pretty devastating to the Russian manufacturing base. Russia hasn't collapsed. That was never the intention. As I said from day one, the point of the sanctions is to make it not worth it to continue. Which they did, and then Putin kept going anyway compounding the losses.

You can make a car without "outside components" if you're fine driving a car without seat belts. Having to do that doesn't mean your manufacturing sector is strong.

Sky fell 4xtimes in one post and like goes on in Russia.

Was curious, and here's an actual chart of Russian car production.

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/car-production#:~:text=Car%20Production%20in%20Russia%20averaged,source%3A%20Federal%20State%20Statistics%20Service

Notice the upward trend since start of 2022? Which pretty much reinforces what I said, that as they decouple from the Europe, they are becoming more self sufficient and will be fine.

500k soldiers joining the military has a miniscule effect on a country with a population of 145 million. Look, I understand you guys desperately want to paint a picture of the world is ending in Russia but it's laughable if you know some of their basic recent history. Shit, the collapse of the Soviet Union had a way bigger negative effect than this war.

https://www.offshore-technology.com/news/russian-oil-revenue-drops-47-first-half-of-year/?cf-view&cf-closed

https://www.energymonitor.ai/finance/weekly-data-plummeting-russian-oil-receipts-herald-the-fall-of-a-petrostate/?cf-view


Everything is coming up Milhouse for Vlad!

Maybe a pipeline to India will keep the lights on in the Kremlin?

So far there has not been a single report of a plane being cannibalized for parts. They are serviced with gray reimports via friendly countries and factories are being set up to produce analogue parts (eg S7 production line in Berdsk). Russia is planning to fully move to SSJ and IL which can be produced fully domestically and manufacturing capacities of those are being ramped up as we speak.



That is true, however Russia has moved on to Chinese cars with Russia being the BIGGEST export market for Chinese cars trumping the next 4 markets combined in 2023. A good friend of mine bought HiPhi X instead of a Porsche Taycan and doesn’t regret his choice.



That is just straight up made up imaginationland. Even if you take exaggerated Ukrainian propaganda numbers, Russia hasn’t lost that many “working age men” and is importing millions more from the Central Asia to man the factories churning out drones, ammo, camouflage, helmets and whatever else you might need.



So far sanctions have failed which is confirmed by both western, UA and domestic analysts. Russia was able to adapt better than expected, GDP is set to grow DESPITE suppressed exchange rate of the rouble and global south is supporting Russia ignoring Western threats.

Virtually all of the territory they gained was taken either during the first couple of days of this invasion, when Russia still kinda had the element of surprise, and when Ukraine did not have hundreds of billions worth of Western military equipment at its disposal yet. Or they were taken after the Russian artillery had bombed them into the absolute ground.

Holding ground against an enemy who does not have air dominance, after you've had half a year to fortify your positions (because your enemy's allies were too slow and reluctant to fuel his counteroffensive), is neither surprising nor something to write home about.

The "hundreds of billions of Western arms supplies for Ukraine"-talking point is peak silliness, considering that the Russians pumped at least the same amount of resources into this war. If we had sent the Ukrainians 80 F16 jets, thousands of top-notch cruise missiles and hundreds of cutting-edge tanks, and the Russians had held off the counteroffensive anyhow, then they would have a reason to celebrate.



As you might remember, I've (mostly) been against the economic sanctions since the get go.


Agreed, but that's a really big IF. I, for my part, highly doubt that Russia will thrive economically anytime soon.






No. This makes their manufacturing more resilient and self-sustaining, but it doesn't necessarily make it stronger or more competitive. The reality is that Russian manufacturing (as well as other industries) will fall even further behind technologically than they already were to begin with. Their cars have regressed to the technological state that Western and Asian carmakers had during the 90s...



Their GDP is almost entirely built on the extraction of oil and natural gas though. And their GDP per capita is far lower than that of Western countries. We can borrow $100k per capita and our debt to GDP ratio goes from 90% to 100% or so; if Russia does the same, their debt to GDP ratio skyrockets from 15% to 80%. (Numbers not exact, just for illustrative purposes.)

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My goyim in christ, Russia has the most battle hardened troops on the planet with the most up to date training on drone/city warfare. Russia,like Iran,has realized that the future of this special military operation does not rely on "their manufacturing" but of their ability to supply the munitions needed on the front lines. Russia is now solely focused on shells/drones/mrbms and mlrs systems. Ukriane doesn't have the supply and Russia does its game over fam