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Dec 22 2023 03:59pm
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I will make several points, make of them what you wish.

The war is not over.
Russia has the strategic initiative after Ukraines counteroffensive has ended.
In an attritional battle, Russia will always have an advantage of scale and manpower.
In a war of large scale manoeuvre Russia has failed to show it can achieve a decisive victory.
For this compare desert storm with Russias initial invasion and in particular the exposed columns of armor at a standstill without fuel or sufficient logistics.

Any pledge of future aid takes weeks if not months to manifest in actual miltary equipment.
Think tanks. They were pledged months ago. We haven't seen any Abrams on the battlefield yet. Although that does not mean Ukraine does not have them and is intentionally ambiguous iguous about there deployment.
Think of F-16s. Pledged many months ago and yet to be deployed.

So to say that because the Congress blocked future funding to Ukraine the war is somehow immediately over is fallacious.

Does it mean that Ukraine could face shortages in the medium term? Absolutely.
Does it mean that unless European countries step up that Ukraine inevitably would not be able to continue the same level of operations? Absolutely.

Money pledged in Washington doesn't appear as military equipment in Kiev the next day.
That's not how this works. And it is infantile to suggest otherwise.


You're really unaware of what's going on, the fact you don't even realize some of the key points here yet you drew focus to 3 jets that were downed, really shows how much knowledge you have on this war let alone far eastern politics
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Dec 22 2023 04:42pm
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You're really unaware of what's going on, the fact you don't even realize some of the key points here yet you drew focus to 3 jets that were downed, really shows how much knowledge you have on this war let alone far eastern politics


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Ukraine is a leading producer of Corn.

What else do they produce, what does Ukraine make?

let me know
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Dec 22 2023 04:48pm
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Ukraine is a leading producer of Corn.

What else do they produce, what does Ukraine make?

let me know


Aircraft wreckages.
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Dec 22 2023 04:50pm
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Aircraft wreckages.


I expected a response along these lines, NATO isn't going to fund Ukraine anymore, so the war is over. The outcome is very clear, do you realize in this modern day, you need money or some type advance technology to win wars?
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Dec 22 2023 05:07pm
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I expected a response along these lines, NATO isn't going to fund Ukraine anymore, so the war is over. The outcome is very clear, do you realize in this modern day, you need money or some type advance technology to win wars?


If the war is over, why are Russian jets being shot out of the sky?
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Dec 22 2023 05:16pm
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If the war is over, why are Russian jets being shot out of the sky?


You realize the winning and losing of wars are based on land seizures "we conquered this land" Russia still has the major hand up on land seized in the war, and they are no where even close to ever running out of money.
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You realize the winning and losing of wars are based on land seizures "we conquered this land" Russia still has the major hand up on land seized in the war, and they are no where even close to ever running out of money.


Is the war over or not?
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Dec 22 2023 05:38pm
Allegedly from a Russian assault in the Kupyansk direction.



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