not sure if you are seriously expecting a mature response from that guy. I mean look at the conversation, you make a comment, he calls bullshit, you provide the source, and then he deflects. is that really the type of person you want to debate with ?

Extremely unreliable, generalizing, need stronger source.

There is literally a 2.5 minute video showing the kidnapping in that link. You don’t believe your lying eyes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TSN.ua

As of January 2012, TCH.ua had ranked first in Ukraine unique users among global news sites for 3 months in a row.[11]

April 2016 rankings show TCH.ua at number 1 among most popular news websites.[12]

According to the results of December 2017, TCH.ua demonstrated the largest reach among Ukrainian news resources. According to research data published by Kantar TNS CMeter, about 3.5 million unique visitors learned news from TCH.ua every month. More than 60% of them did it from mobile devices.[13]

In February 2018, the audience of the TCH.ua website exceeded 4 million unique visitors. Almost 3 million visited the site from mobile phones. This is evidenced by the data of the monthly report of the market meter of the Ukrainian Internet audience Gemius.[14]

In November 2018, the reach of TCH.ua was 5.7 million unique users, of which 4.8 million read the site from mobile devices.[15]

In 2018, the number of views of TCH.ua increased by 50% and amounted to half a billion, compared to 2017; the reach of the resource increased by 42%, and the average monthly share in the Ukrainian Internet was 19%. According to the Gemius Audience final report, every fifth user of Internet services in Ukraine read news on TCH.ua in 2018. 70% of the audience did it from mobile devices.[16]

In May 2019, TCH.ua broke its own historical record — the site's share exceeded 26% of the Ukrainian Internet audience, and the number of unique visitors was 6.5 million.[17]

According to data from the research company Gemius Audience, TCH.ua took first place in the ranking of Ukrainian news sites in terms of the number of unique users and is the undisputed leader in terms of the average monthly number of unique users in 2020 as of December 2020.[18]

According to the research company Gemius Audience, in May 2021, the site TCH.ua bypassed with a certain gap other news resources of Ukraine: 8.7 million unique users and almost 86 million pages viewed,[19] in August — 8,3 million unique users.[20]

As of January 2022, TCH.ua was the most popular news resource in Ukraine,[21] in March of the same year it was visited by more than 11.4 million unique users,[22] and by August their number decreased by only 10% to 11 million.[23]




you can lead a donkey to water but if he does not want to drink it, no big deal.

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 21 2023 01:53pm

Generalizing this event we have no precise idea about. While thousands get shot for Putin.



Read about the author's previous employer. It's just a distraction anyway.

I’m sorry what? We have a major UA outlet reporting on kidnappings of people off the street using ambulances.

We have outlets like WSJ writing pretty somber pieces about the same.

You are given a video of the event and a link to the reaction of Odessa military.

What else could you possibly need?



Okay? Distract, dodge and deflect?

Absolutely, I would prefer if Russia did not invade its neighbouring countries.

Do you agree?



Reported for personal attack, please add to the discussion or just stay silent.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Dec 21 2023 02:06pm

I have said this many times in this thread. I would have wholeheartedly preferred if this conflict never happened. This is a clear failure of diplomacy and hundreds of thousands deaths could have been avoided. Alas we are here.

How do we get out of this mess realistically?

There is no straightforward way out of it. Both sides and their leaders are too far apart currently; Unfortunately Putin has lit a fuse and it will continue to burn.

This Malopox guy is desperately posting propaganda while his brothers are getting decimated with his tax money. Can't make this shit up:





This post was edited by RandomRedditGuy on Dec 21 2023 05:30pm