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Jul 11 2021 09:56am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 11 Jul 2021 13:40)
0.5% deaths are higher death rates than covid death rates. people dying on covid were on average 75 or whatever.
thought that's a socially acceptable death toll to develop herd immunity and keep living normally. instead we destroyed hundreds of millions of lives by ruining economy cos 0.1% retired folks died of covid.
cmon

some people said that during 2020. but were insulted by pro vaccine people cos "every life matters".
not anymore i guess


Learn to fucking read, I wrote "0.05% death rate among those fully vaccinated who do get infected". So you're off by a factor of at least 10, in practice, it's rather gonna be a factor of 20 or so because not everyone will get infected, and because the vaccinations also slow down the spread of the virus and thus help to flatten the curve even if all other covid measures were dropped.


You're also misinterpreting where I actually stand on covid. Ten months ago or so, in the coronavirus thread, I was explicitly writing that a 0.35- 0.5% IFR, which is mostly coming from old people, would be tolerable and no justification for lockdowns on its own; and that the true crux is that an unmitigated covid wave would overwhelm the healthcare system and indirectly kill plenty of non-covid patients. Imho, this threat is the only proper justification there ever was for lockdowns - and vaccinations largely eliminate this problem. Once every eligible person had a fair chance to get vaccinated (which is not yet the case here in continental Europe), all restrictions have to be dropped.
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Jul 11 2021 10:03am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 11 2021 10:56am)
Learn to fucking read, I wrote "0.05% death rate among those fully vaccinated who do get infected". So you're off by a factor of at least 10, in practice, it's rather gonna be a factor of 20 or so because not everyone will get infected, and because the vaccinations also slow down the spread of the virus and thus help to flatten the curve even if all other covid measures were dropped.


You're also misinterpreting where I actually stand on covid. Ten months ago or so, in the coronavirus thread, I was explicitly writing that a 0.35- 0.5% IFR, which is mostly coming from old people, would be tolerable and no justification for lockdowns on its own; and that the true crux is that an unmitigated covid wave would overwhelm the healthcare system and indirectly kill plenty of non-covid patients. Imho, this threat is the only proper justification there ever was for lockdowns - and vaccinations largely eliminate this problem. Once every eligible person had a fair chance to get vaccinated (which is not yet the case here in continental Europe), all restrictions have to be dropped.


Depends what you mean by lockdowns.

It's definitely a justification for full blown work from home, shut down restaurants.

Once the healthcare system was not overwhelmed, the regular Covid death rate was still enough to keep low risk high reward activities going, like wearing masks and working from home where possible.
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Jul 11 2021 11:48am
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Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 11 Jul 2021 13:48)
ok lets do this quickly

Population: 4.076 million
Deaths: 8,227
Percentage: 0.00020567500000000003%
Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

According to your 2.3% trash, croatia lost 92000 people to covid.



only thing you destroyed was your life with a poor choice of diet my dear fat friend


Let's start a war and immediately claiming nobody is dead yet, so the war has no victims.

It's hard to evaluate the depth of this idiotic thnking, really. Probably the result of intense inbreeding.
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Jul 11 2021 12:06pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 11 Jul 2021 18:03)
Depends what you mean by lockdowns.

It's definitely a justification for full blown work from home, shut down restaurants.

Once the healthcare system was not overwhelmed, the regular Covid death rate was still enough to keep low risk high reward activities going, like wearing masks and working from home where possible.


Yes, with lockdowns, I was thinking about proper business shutdowns and stay-at-home orders.

But yes, my point still stands: once every eligible person had a fair chance to get vaccinated, all covid measures must be dropped and put on a purely voluntary basis, including 'mild' stuff like mask wearing. The groups who cannot get vaccinated are small and young enough that they cannot produce enough covid patients to swamp the hospitals - and if the ranks of unvaccinated without medical excuse start overwhelming the hospitals, then the idiots shall just be triaged, i.e. they get handed some sleeping pills and painkillers and are sent home to die.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 11 2021 12:06pm
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Jul 11 2021 12:13pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 11 2021 11:06am)
Yes, with lockdowns, I was thinking about proper business shutdowns and stay-at-home orders.

But yes, my point still stands: once every eligible person had a fair chance to get vaccinated, all covid measures must be dropped and put on a purely voluntary basis, including 'mild' stuff like mask wearing. The groups who cannot get vaccinated are small and young enough that they cannot produce enough covid patients to swamp the hospitals - and if the ranks of unvaccinated without medical excuse start overwhelming the hospitals, then the idiots shall just be triaged, i.e. they get handed some sleeping pills and painkillers and are sent home to die.


Can we also go to their funerals and laugh at the families?
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Jul 11 2021 12:43pm
Quote (thundercock @ 11 Jul 2021 20:13)
Can we also go to their funerals and laugh at the families?


We should posthumously give them a Darwin Award.
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Jul 11 2021 01:08pm
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Let's start a war and immediately claiming nobody is dead yet, so the war has no victims.

It's hard to evaluate the depth of this idiotic thnking, really. Probably the result of intense inbreeding.


so you're claiming it's 2.3%
i put math + reliable sources that claim 0.0002% obviously indicating that you're wrong and making things up.
and your response to that is "idiotic thinking".
sweet logic fatso.
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Jul 11 2021 01:27pm
from the very beginning this is how much they have lied to you and you still bow to them

CDC ADMITS 96% OF COVID DEATHS WERE WRONG [JAN 12]
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bbJ7wm1GSheU/
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Jul 11 2021 01:34pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 11 2021 09:03am)
Depends what you mean by lockdowns.

It's definitely a justification for full blown work from home, shut down restaurants.

Once the healthcare system was not overwhelmed, the regular Covid death rate was still enough to keep low risk high reward activities going, like wearing masks and working from home where possible.


gotta be a real stubborn kook to still believe in masks

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 11 2021 11:06am)
Yes, with lockdowns, I was thinking about proper business shutdowns and stay-at-home orders.

But yes, my point still stands: once every eligible person had a fair chance to get vaccinated, all covid measures must be dropped and put on a purely voluntary basis, including 'mild' stuff like mask wearing. The groups who cannot get vaccinated are small and young enough that they cannot produce enough covid patients to swamp the hospitals - and if the ranks of unvaccinated without medical excuse start overwhelming the hospitals, then the idiots shall just be triaged, i.e. they get handed some sleeping pills and painkillers and are sent home to die.


lock your own azz down fascist hide in your basement

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Jul 11 2021 02:00pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 11 2021 04:40am)
0.5% deaths are higher death rates than covid death rates. people dying on covid were on average 75 or whatever.
thought that's a socially acceptable death toll to develop herd immunity and keep living normally. instead we destroyed hundreds of millions of lives by ruining economy cos 0.1% retired folks died of covid.
cmon

some people said that during 2020. but were insulted by pro vaccine people cos "every life matters".
not anymore i guess



.5% isn’t the death toll anywhere that has population centers

This post was edited by theCrossbones on Jul 11 2021 02:00pm
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