In Transcarpathia, a local deputy exploded several grenades right during a meeting of the village council.

This is what happens when you realize the leaders of your country sold its soul to a foreign entity.

The fun part would be when the disillusioned Azov and Aidar Nazis will start coming to Europe after the war ends to take justice into their own hands with smuggled grenades and weapons.

Imagine being a nationalist politician like Orban or Wilders or Le Pen or Chrupalla/Wiedel? You might get a visit from a Mykola.

And the sad part? Majority of Europeans and Americans cant tell a Russian from Ukrainian apart even if their life depends on it.

This post was edited by Malopox on Dec 15 2023 06:11am

Very true and definitely sad. I don't think my fellow burgers could tell the difference between a Russian and a brit at this point

That 300K seems to be US trash propaganda. I posted this the other day. Check it, will only take a couple minutes

Djunior, it probably is 300,000+ dead, but that is besides the point. i.e. The death toll on either side is besides the point. All that these numbers are conveying is that both Ukraine and Russia are totally committed. This is an existential threat for Russia therefore no amount is too much. They will win this war or they will suffer a humiliating defeat (which is highly improbable). There is no middle ground here. There is no shame in 300000 dead. Sure if they were Israeli they would have just carpet bombed Ukraine to reduce their own losses but Russia is not that barbaric or inhumane.

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 15 2023 07:50am

You can't state 50K in 2023 and a bit later it's 300K while Russia has largely been defending.

Unless you deliberately release that number for propaganda purposes which seems to be the case

This post was edited by Djunior on Dec 15 2023 07:51am

my point is, the numbers dont matter. Russia is taking this conflict very seriously and the ends justify the means for them.

I think is the crux of the problem.

Both Ukraine and Russia are fully committed. Losses do not matter at this point - its survival of the fittest.

Russia is able to run this war with minimal tech help from NK, Iran, China and whoever else wants to chip in - but would probably be able to stall advance to a halt without external support. Sanctions didnt ruin the Economy, Political environment seems to be quite stable around Putin. What little material dissent Russia had in opposition or the likes of Prigozhin have been 100% neutralized. Military tech Russia is able to put out (tanks, ammo, drones) seems to be able to keep them in the game. You can joke about outdated tech that Russians have to use or develop - but you cant diminish its effectiveness and getting war stuff done.

Ukraine is economically, politically and militarily bankrupt at this point and fully relies on external support to continue playing this game and throwing people into the grinder.

The problem lies with external supporters of Ukraine who are unwilling to fully commit to this and lower their living standards by weaponizing their economies in full support of Ukraine in their predicament. It just doesn't fly with an average American or European voter why they should accept a 50% salary cut so that Mykola could win over Ivan. They just don't honestly care beside the generic "war is bad, stop killing each other, stop the agressor" and noone can blame them.

Holy shit you've lost the plot

It's 300k Kaput/Wounded but i'm surprised because usually the average russian soldier get 1/ no treatment 2/ send back to frontline naked without having fully recovered 3/ killed himself to avoid the drone fate.

But i quote you for something else: Russia did complete horrors and tries to freeze Ukrainians to death by destroying their energy plants.
This regime is called terrorist regime for a reason, is friend with the absolutely worse regimes on this planet for a reason, and have these freedoms rankings for a reason.