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#38111
Dec 14 2023 05:01pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 14 2023 10:44pm)
Ok, so apparently you cant. So let me try to break it down for you.

Just because on the aggregate, the mobilized and volunteer number is higher than the soldier count that are fighting in Ukraine at a given point in time doesn't mean the difference is basically KIA. It could be for a number of reasons but here are two extremely obvious ones if you have above room temp IQ.

1. Soldiers in combat duty rotate. It ranges from military to military but active duty personnel go on tours. 3 month, 6 month 9 month, whatever. So as some go back home, retire, whatever others rotate to front lines. Additionally at this point it's approaching 2 years, so the number rotated in and out in that time span will obviously exceed the current number serving.

2. Of the volunteers and mobilized it's conceivable that not all of those people actually went into Ukraine you get this right? Armies have a ton of logistical domestic positions, recruiting, etc. That doesn't mean 100% were sent to Ukraine to combat duty. So to take aggregate number- number in Ukraine could be capturing people that never actually went there.

Of course the number is higher than 6k but the way the Independent arrived at the 'inadvertent admission' is just lol worthy. So desperate to find wins.


Out of interest how many casualties do you think Russia has taken, killed and injured?

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Dec 14 2023 05:20pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 14 2023 10:44pm)
Ok, so apparently you cant. So let me try to break it down for you.

Just because on the aggregate, the mobilized and volunteer number is higher than the soldier count that are fighting in Ukraine at a given point in time doesn't mean the difference is basically KIA. It could be for a number of reasons but here are two extremely obvious ones if you have above room temp IQ.

1. Soldiers in combat duty rotate. It ranges from military to military but active duty personnel go on tours. 3 month, 6 month 9 month, whatever. So as some go back home, retire, whatever others rotate to front lines. Additionally at this point it's approaching 2 years, so the number rotated in and out in that time span will obviously exceed the current number serving.

2. Of the volunteers and mobilized it's conceivable that not all of those people actually went into Ukraine you get this right? Armies have a ton of logistical domestic positions, recruiting, etc. That doesn't mean 100% were sent to Ukraine to combat duty. So to take aggregate number- number in Ukraine could be capturing people that never actually went there.

Of course the number is higher than 6k but the way the Independent arrived at the 'inadvertent admission' is just lol worthy. So desperate to find wins.


It is credible that Russia has lost over 300,000 men.
it is not credible that Ukraine has lost only 30,000 men.

I dont mind seeing these conversation but the reality is Ukraine is not doing well.
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#38113
Dec 14 2023 05:22pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 14 2023 06:01pm)
Out of interest how many casualties do you think Russia has taken, killed and injured?


No idea. If it came out that 50k dead was the number I wouldn’t be shocked
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#38114
Dec 14 2023 05:41pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 15 2023 12:22am)
No idea. If it came out that 50k dead was the number I wouldn’t be shocked


It's always like that with Russia lol

Stalin in 1946: "As a result of the German invasion, the Soviet Union irrevocably lost in battles with the Germans, as well as thanks to the German occupation and the deportation of Soviet people to German penal servitude, about seven million people."

Khrushchev said in 1961: "The war claimed two tens of millions of Soviet lives."

Brezhnev added in 1965: "Over 20 million people."

Gorbachev shouted in 1990: "The war claimed nearly 27 million Soviet lives."

On February 14, 2017, at a hearing in the State Duma, State Duma Deputy Nikolai Zemtsov, co-chairman of the Immortal Regiment of Russia movement, spoke on the documentary basis of the People's Project "Establishing the Fates of Missing Defenders of the Fatherland":

“According to the declassified data of the State Planning Committee of the USSR, the losses of the Soviet Union in the Second World War are 41 million 979 thousand, not 27 million, as previously thought. This is almost one third of the modern population of the Russian Federation.


In 60-80 years we will find out the true numbers

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#38115
Dec 15 2023 03:07am
How it started:



How it's going:

Quote (Malopox @ 14 Dec 2023 23:44)
https://x.com/flotus/status/1735074586721468855 Really conflicted about this one. On one hand American First Lady is giving a nod of appreciation to the Russian culture and playing Russian classics this Christmas at the White House while simultaneously trying to cancel Russian culture? On the other hand it’s such a wierd interpretation of the Nutcracker Suite? Does it belong in this thread?



Its so bizarre that American establishment hates everything Russian, but at the same time are secretly fascinated with Russian culture. I mean they could have staged any other ballet at the White House?

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Dec 15 2023 03:37am
Quote (Malopox @ Dec 15 2023 09:07am)
How it started:

https://i.imgur.com/9ImDu2M.png

How it's going:


https://i.imgur.com/p7naMFT.png

Its so bizarre that American establishment hates everything Russian, but at the same time are secretly fascinated with Russian culture. I mean they could have staged any other ballet at the White House?


You just got 10D checkmated.
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#38117
Dec 15 2023 03:38am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 15 Dec 2023 10:37)
You just got 10D checkmated.


What do you mean? Are you proud of UK getting ridiculed while your American brothers get to enjoy Russian classics in modern interpretation?

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#38118
Dec 15 2023 04:11am
Quote (ferdia @ 14 Dec 2023 23:13)
you dont remember this image ?


I lack memory capacity :)
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#38119
Dec 15 2023 05:10am
So no one's gona bring up the fact that the patriot missle system just got destroyed? This is one if the biggest reasons why uncle sam didn't want to give it away in the first place, the PR of them being destroyed dispels the myth of American invulnerability, maybe Germany should of saved it for her own borders:



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Dec 15 2023 05:24am
Quote (zorzin @ Dec 15 2023 11:10am)
So no one's gona bring up the fact that the patriot missle system just got destroyed? This is one if the biggest reasons why uncle sam didn't want to give it away in the first place, the PR of them being destroyed dispels the myth of American invulnerability, maybe Germany should of saved it for her own borders:

https://i.postimg.cc/cCVyLFH7/1702632052584886.jpg


If lordbebo said its true, it must be true. :rolleyes:
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