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Apr 1 2021 09:02am
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I'm asking for an actual case. The police followed their training. They did NOT kill Floyd based on the coroner's report. The claim that they did is based entirely on, "Well he was weak, therefore, it MUST have been them!"

This was a criminal being detained for his crime. He was put into the cruiser to be processed. He refused to stay in the cruiser, demanded to be let out, and smashed his head against the glass when they wouldn't let him out. So they pulled him out and utilized the trained restraint against him that you use against any suspect exhibiting Excited Delirium.

What more could they have done? Or what less? I asked this a few days ago, but do you WANT me to get banned by linking to pregnant cops getting stabbed to death by suspects in exactly the same state of excited delirium?

I don't need you to tell me how I'm doing. I'm perfectly aware that I'm on the high ground here. I'm not defending a criminal, and I AM making the case for an innocent lawman who was simply following his training.

If you want to prove me wrong, make a case. Because so far, no case has been made.




this is their training, u can keep saying they followed their training but thats a lie as much as when u claimed his dose was lethal and then got proven to be lying both by the fact that u were using typical lethal dose association as fact and the autopsy report contradicting you.

its fine to speculate, just dont lie and act like ur spitting facts.

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Were you aware that he swallowed his whole stash to hide it from the cops?


speculation, shop keeper witness stated he was clearly high and unresponsive before cops were even called. i tend to agree he swallowed all or part of his stash once cops were called. but its speculation.

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Apr 1 2021 09:03am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 1 2021 11:02am)
https://i.imgur.com/WcCkPWY.png

this is their training, u can keep saying they followed their training but thats a lie as much as when u claimed his dose was lethal and then got proven to be lying both by the fact that u were using typical lethal dose association as fact and the autopsy report contradicting you.

its fine to speculate, just dont lie and act like ur spitting facts.


Liars gonna lie.
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Apr 1 2021 09:05am
Quote (thesnipa @ 1 Apr 2021 08:02)
https://i.imgur.com/WcCkPWY.png

this is their training, u can keep saying they followed their training but thats a lie as much as when u claimed his dose was lethal and then got proven to be lying both by the fact that u were using typical lethal dose association as fact and the autopsy report contradicting you.

its fine to speculate, just dont lie and act like ur spitting facts.


For the third time, when Floyd stopped struggling, he had already succumbed to cardiac arrest.

Answer plainly: Does the "recovery position" cure cardiac arrest?

Given the answer is "no" answer this: Given from the point where Floyd succumbed to when the EMTs arrived was almost exactly 2 minutes, what more could the officers have done?

NN more pictures. I'm not that stupid. Stop pretending I am. Words or scientific studies are more appropriate, kiddo.
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Apr 1 2021 09:08am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 1 2021 10:05am)
For the third time, when Floyd stopped struggling, he had already succumbed to cardiac arrest.

Answer plainly: Does the "recovery position" cure cardiac arrest?

Given the answer is "no" answer this: Given from the point where Floyd succumbed to when the EMTs arrived was almost exactly 2 minutes, what more could the officers have done?

NN more pictures. I'm not that stupid. Stop pretending I am. Words or scientific studies are more appropriate, kiddo.


cure, no. potentially delay or alleviate to the point of survival, yes.

its called the recovery position, not the still die but slower position.

if u dont want me to use kid gloves learn to say your R's right kid.

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Apr 1 2021 09:09am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 1 2021 10:00am)
A fifth of vodka in the course of a couple hours gives you an estimated (in my weight range) .3 to .5. I did not stutter, nor did I provide a bullshit number.


Santara is the one who questioned your numbers, not me. So calm your tits.
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Apr 1 2021 09:10am
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cure, no. potentially delay or alleviate to the point of survival, yes.

its called the recovery position, not the still die but slower position.

if u dont want me to use kid gloves learn to say your R's right kid.


Line 1: Lie. Putting a person who's having a heart attack on their side does not stop the heart attack. How fucking stupid do you think we are?

Line 2: The recovery position is designed to allow a person's lungs to inflate, and for them to cough up accumulated liquid, not restart their heart you fucking moron.

Line 3: If you'd take off the kid gloves and act like an adult, we'd all appreciate it.

Jesus fuck you're acting stupid as shit.
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Apr 1 2021 09:15am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Apr 1 2021 10:10am)
Line 1: Lie. Putting a person who's having a heart attack on their side does not stop the heart attack. How fucking stupid do you think we are?

Line 2: The recovery position is designed to allow a person's lungs to inflate, and for them to cough up accumulated liquid, not restart their heart you fucking moron.

Line 3: If you'd take off the kid gloves and act like an adult, we'd all appreciate it.

Jesus fuck you're acting stupid as shit.


stopping a heart attack = cure. i didnt say it cures it. just buys time. time was burned, not bought.

rest = u mad. sorry u got caught lying then strawmanned my posts into supposed lies to cope. no reason to bring jesus into this.
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Apr 1 2021 09:15am
To what degree do people here hold chauvin accountable for floyds death?

Id think there should be consequences for putting your knee on someone's neck for 8 minutes but i dont think the cause of death is wholly attributable to what chauvin did
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Apr 1 2021 09:20am
Quote (thesnipa @ 1 Apr 2021 08:15)
stopping a heart attack = cure. i didnt say it cures it. just buys time. time was burned, not bought.

rest = u mad. sorry u got caught lying then strawmanned my posts into supposed lies to cope. no reason to bring jesus into this.


Literally what the fuck are you talking about? Floyd went into cardiac arrest. He was resuscitated. Multiple times.

NOTHING in your magical fairy fluffy foofoo world of "recovery position" would have helped anything. It was the cardiac arrest that was the problem. The recovery position does not cure OR HELP the cardiac arrest.

It's like we're on a different planet here. I thought we might be getting somewhere, for a little while. Now, I just want to know what the fuck you're talking about.

Quote (duffman316 @ 1 Apr 2021 08:15)
To what degree do people here hold chauvin accountable for floyds death?

Id think there should be consequences for putting your knee on someone's neck for 8 minutes but i dont think the cause of death is wholly attributable to what chauvin did


According to the coroner's report, there was no damage to the throat whatsoever. That means the "knee on the neck" was there to keep the head pointed one way, nothing more. It wasn't pressure, merely control, which is a law enforcement officer's job.

I don't believe Chauvin is accountable. That being said, if the jury finds that he's fully accountable, fine. I'm not really concerned, beyond looking at the facts as we know them.
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Apr 1 2021 09:20am
Quote (duffman316 @ Apr 1 2021 11:15am)
To what degree do people here hold chauvin accountable for floyds death?

Id think there should be consequences for putting your knee on someone's neck for 8 minutes but i dont think the cause of death is wholly attributable to what chauvin did


If I were the god emperor of mankind I would slap him on the wrist with excessive force and promise to change the law to prefer different holds.

If Chauvin was genuinely reckless or careless, negligent manslaughter would be appropriate.

Anything more than 2 years in jail is just excessive given the whole story.
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