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May 23 2023 07:48pm
Quote (TiStuff @ May 23 2023 06:43pm)
you have apathy about adults twerking for lil kids and teaching lil kids how to twerk. you think that some how improves your standing?


I have apathy about the specific video shown that was central to the posts you keep quoting. Do I find it odd? Yeah. Would I do it myself? No. Do I think it's the most egregious thing ever worthy of the level of scorn and ramifications that you view it with? Also no.
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May 23 2023 07:50pm
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"My way of thinking" is the way of thinking that is foundational to both The United States and Canada as our legal systems are not terribly dissimilar on this point. We don't simply ban things because we dislike them, because again, any of us may find ourselves at the end of that metaphorical barrel.

Where we differ is that I would oppose legislation that limits your freedom if it doesn't have a compelling interest, whereas you seem to be quite happy to limit the freedom of others without such compelling interest. Again, you may find that favorable in this specific example because the legislation used is commensurate with your personal opinion.


I am not saying I need to outlaw drag story hour. It's like I said, there are many extra-legal ways to contain them. I just lament that in order to be a free and just society, we have to tolerate something like that, or homosexuality. If there were a way to be free and just while also not having to deal with gays or drag queens, I would be ecstatic.
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May 23 2023 07:52pm
Quote (JessiWan @ May 23 2023 06:50pm)
I am not saying I need to outlaw drag story hour. It's like I said, there are many extra-legal ways to contain them. I just lament that in order to be a free and just society, we have to tolerate something like that, or homosexuality. If there were a way to be free and just while also not having to deal with gays or drag queens, I would be ecstatic.


There is a way to do that. You start your own society.
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May 23 2023 07:53pm
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There is a way to do that. You start your own society.


It's theoretically possible but in practice impossible. Can't start own society when all the land's been taken.
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May 23 2023 07:56pm
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It's theoretically possible but in practice impossible. Can't start own society when all the land's been taken.


We live in a society, as the kids say.
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May 23 2023 07:59pm
Quote (JessiWan @ May 23 2023 08:07pm)
If you normalize drag lifestyle to kids, such that they grow up to be such perverts themselves, then it can be argued that psychological harm has occurred. Of course, I know you disagree. But if enough people feel this way, then they can certainly pass laws that they think will make their society more wholesome. You just need to learn to live with it, or move to another state.


You have to prove that's the case or your law will be struck down.

That's how this works because we value freedom. The onus is on the government to prove harm because the right to freedom of speech and association is guaranteed by the constitution

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May 23 2023 08:01pm
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I have apathy about the specific video shown that was central to the posts you keep quoting. Do I find it odd? Yeah. Would I do it myself? No. Do I think it's the most egregious thing ever worthy of the level of scorn and ramifications that you view it with? Also no.


your apathetic about some adult teaching lil kids to twerk. at first you said you would be against such things. claimed it didnt happen. now you see it happens, pretend you didnt see any of the other stuff i posted......... its just apathy now. so fukn what........... typical lefty pedo 'pride bullchit.

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May 23 2023 08:04pm
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You have to prove that's the case or your law will be struck down.

That's how this works because we value freedom. The onus is on the government to prove harm because the right to freedom of speech and association is guaranteed by the constitution


I would be ok with drag queens' freedom to read to kids, as long as we could have white people's freedom to exclude blacks from their living spaces.
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May 23 2023 08:08pm
Quote (JessiWan @ May 23 2023 07:04pm)
I would be ok with drag queens' freedom to read to kids, as long as we could have white people's freedom to exclude blacks from their living spaces.


if all they did was read to them it wouldnt be a big deal
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May 23 2023 08:08pm
Quote (TiStuff @ May 23 2023 07:01pm)
your apathetic about some adult teaching lil kids to twerk. at first you said you would be against such things. claimed it didnt happen. now you see it happens, pretend you didnt see any of the other stuff i posted......... its just apathy now. so fukn what........... typical lefty pedo 'pride bullchit.


I think the specific example shown is not that serious, correct. I think most people would agree. I could be wrong though.
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