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Dec 12 2023 12:52pm
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U.S. intelligence assesses Ukraine war has cost Russia 315,000 casualties

(reuters)

https://news.yahoo.com/u-intelligence-assesses-ukraine-war-161649343.html


And Ukraine is not suffering any casualties huh. You can be sure that they've suffered just as many casualties. Or is that a whataboutism, lol.


Zelensky is begging for help in Washington pointing out he desperately needs that 60 billion package. You understand the word desperate?

Nice testing ground, everything goes according to plan of course SMH
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 12 2023 07:47pm)
It's actually not. I have lived in the west for vast majority of my life, I'm a US citizen, my kids are, much of my extended family is and has been for decades. There's literally tens of millions of 1st or 2nd gen immigrants in the US, Canada, that are part of the collective western 'we'.

I understand you're bothered by this, because you cling to some purist anglo-saxon supremacy complex that thinks that these are white lands (oh and only certain shades and ethnic backgrounds of whites!) only for those that have been here for 150, 200 or whatever years but that's not the case.

I'm really glad this bothers you as well. It feels warm and tingly on the inside especially as I accrue wealth and as my family grows. It's really sad though, because people like you instead of looking inwardly and try to better yourselves and think how can I put me and my family in a better place instead externalize and blame some group. Sign of failure.


Interesting perspective, but you are taking it the wrong way. I can feel tremendous amount of pain inside you for the crimes Western powers committed back in 1940s/1950s, I salute your devotion to assimilation. I am just trying to absolve you from this pain and responsibility bro, is all. You don't have to answer for the sins committed by USA prior to your arrival there. Imagine what you would feel if you had to move to Germany tomorrow, you would probably insist to be tried in an Nuremberg court, for Hitlers crimes!

Just take it easy buddy, all I am saying..
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Quote (Uber23 @ Dec 12 2023 02:01pm)
Interesting perspective, but you are taking it the wrong way. I can feel tremendous amount of pain inside you for the crimes Western powers committed back in 1940s/1950s, I salute your devotion to assimilation. I am just trying to absolve you from this pain and responsibility bro, is all. You don't have to answer for the sins committed by USA prior to your arrival there. Imagine what you would feel if you had to move to Germany tomorrow, you would probably insist to be tried in an Nuremberg court, for Hitlers crimes!

Just take it easy buddy, all I am saying..


None of this makes any sense lol

I love the US and believe it to be one of if not the best country to ever exist (maybe Roman empire at its height exceeds it). That doesn't mean I love everything about current politics or they way the country is steered.
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Quote (Djunior @ Dec 12 2023 12:52pm)
And Ukraine is not suffering any casualties huh. You can be sure that they've suffered just as many casualties. Or is that a whataboutism, lol.


Zelensky is begging for help in Washington pointing out he desperately needs that 60 billion package. You understand the word desperate?

Nice testing ground, everything goes according to plan of course SMH


Ukraine lost the war,

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/ukraines-top-mobile-internet-company-blames-russian-cyberattack-rcna129253

Shits over with, and their knocking off more providers as the day continues, they've destroyed a major part of the critical infrastructure that their citizens need for communication. It was perfectly timed, the moment Zelensky landed in D.C.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 12 2023 08:11pm)
None of this makes any sense lol

I love the US and believe it to be one of if not the best country to ever exist (maybe Roman empire at its height exceeds it). That doesn't mean I love everything about current politics or they way the country is steered.


Suppose you were to immigrate to Germany tomorrow and developed a strong affection for the country. Would you then identify yourself as part of "we" when discussing Hitler or the German fascist government of the 1940s?
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Dec 12 2023 01:19pm
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Quote (Uber23 @ Dec 12 2023 02:13pm)
Suppose you were to immigrate to Germany tomorrow and developed a strong affection for the country. Would you then identify yourself as part of "we" when discussing Hitler or the German fascist government of the 1940s?


Dumb analogy

How many Germans today identify as "we" the Nazis. How many Americans today identify as "we" the slave owners?

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Ukraine lost the war,

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/ukraines-top-mobile-internet-company-blames-russian-cyberattack-rcna129253

Shits over with, and their knocking off more providers as the day continues, they've destroyed a major part of the critical infrastructure that their citizens need for communication. It was perfectly timed, the moment Zelensky landed in D.C.


Ukraine did not face defeat when it lacked almost any air defense systems and endured relentless Russian missile attacks. It also did not succumb to defeat while successfully repelling a fully mobilized 200,000-strong Russian army with javelins and stingers. And yet, the notion is that it has now lost the war simply because one of its internet providers was hacked?
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Ukraine did not face defeat when it lacked almost any air defense systems and endured relentless Russian missile attacks. It also did not succumb to defeat while successfully repelling a fully mobilized 200,000-strong Russian army with javelins and stingers. And yet, the notion is that it has now lost the war simply because one of its internet providers was hacked?


24M Ukrainians, that's half of the population of Ukraine is without internet service or any type of communication, do you understand how wars work? if you have no com's you're good as dead, this will also create mass chaos amongst the residents of Ukraine, panic will ensue, and make them even more vulnerable.

You think Russia is going to stop with just one provider?

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Its CEO Oleksandr Komarov said the attack was "a result of" the war with Russia, although he did not say which Russian body he believed to be responsible, and that the company's IT infrastructure had been "partially destroyed"


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Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 12 2023 07:20pm)
Dumb analogy

How many Germans today identify as "we" the Nazis. How many Americans today identify as "we" the slave owners?


a fly on the wall - how many people identify as multi's.
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