Quote (zorzin @ Dec 12 2023 10:19am)

Lol'd

No my friend, operation barbossa was another attempt by a European power to invade Russia during the winter. Sure the lend lease helped but Russia was always winning that war so long as the allies maintained the pressure in the west.

I will even accept your number of 50000000, but then you concede the fact that no country on earth after ww2 has the conventional means to invade Russia, nice shitpost though!

Quote (Malopox @ Dec 12 2023 08:24am)

This video is an exemplary piece of propaganda warfare ^ferdia ^ofthevoid ^djunior ^dizzybusines ^norlander ^hamsterbaby

1) We have a PBS - an American channel uploads a video about Sakha Republic and removes ability to comment.

2) Sakha is a region in Russia - majority of Americans wouldn’t able to put on a map even if threatened with violence or if their life depended on it. Kareem here doesn’t know the capital of Sakha and honestly doesn’t give a shit about Sakha people unless it allows him to smear Russia.

3) The video then goes to present Natalia Arno - a Free Russia Foundation operative living in Washington DC as an “expert” who chimes in on the propaganda piece. FRF is a known USAID front and everything they say should be ignored.

4) The video then goes to show “correspondence” with somebody who complains about being mobilized in Ugledar which is controlled by Ukraine(!!!). I can’t even make this shit up,

Kareem, you are better than that. You should try with more nuanced propaganda. This piece you presented is very quick work made by very dumb people.

Where do you get this propaganda though? Are you in some NAFO coordinated discord group where they tell you fresh propaganda you should spread?

Lvivz here only posts stale memes from last year from his basement in IvanoFrankivsk. I think it’s because he bought an amulet against mobilization .

Quote (Uber23 @ Dec 12 2023 01:25pm)

Nobody wants to invade Russia.

Quote (C4NTWO @ Dec 12 2023 01:05pm)

im a history noob, but i think ofthevoid is correct here. the amount of german troops that didnt go west because they went east instead to fight the soviet union very well could have changed the outcome for the british.
not sure how much more of a connection one really needs...

Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 12 2023 06:30pm)

There was a time in western history books that it was acknowledged the role played by the Soviets in WW2. It was common knowledge early on after WW2, that they made huge sacrifices and really broke the camel's back.

What shifted is that as the Soviets became our geopolitical adversaries it was counter-narrative to attribute those positives to them, so subsequently western history books started to reframe WW2 and slant it towards that the west, particularly the US was really the driving force for winning the overall war. So at this point in history at least a couple of generations now grew up thinking that was objective reality.

Quote (zorzin @ Dec 12 2023 07:26pm)

That's fear you feel, western power in decline

Quote (Uber23 @ Dec 12 2023 01:21pm)

Chivalrous Russians, always looking to protect minorities wherever those minorities may be!
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Dec 12 2023 07:30pm)

There was a time in western history books that it was acknowledged the role played by the Soviets in WW2. It was common knowledge early on after WW2, that they made huge sacrifices and really broke the camel's back.

What shifted is that as the Soviets became our geopolitical adversaries it was counter-narrative to attribute those positives to them, so subsequently western history books started to reframe WW2 and slant it towards that the west, particularly the US was really the driving force for winning the overall war. So at this point in history at least a couple of generations now grew up thinking that was objective reality.

Quote (Uber23 @ Dec 12 2023 01:37pm)

I'm curious, as you immigrated to the USA long after those events transpired, and your ancestors resided in the Soviet Union or its satellites. Why do you use "we" when referring to the USA, Britain, or the West?

It's a rather peculiar practice, my friend, akin to penalizing individuals for a law that was recently enacted but that they transgressed a long time ago.