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#3791
Apr 8 2022 11:46am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 8 Apr 2022 17:38)
Would there be an adverse reaction.
Let me put in it in my own words.

Propaganda wise Kremlin will be saying 80% of Russians support Putin and this " Special Operation " .
But maybe just 20%

And if the sanctions continue and really screw the Russian population up, instead of expecting a coup that will overthrow Putin.
The 20% becomes 60 to 70% since everyone starts to become nationalistic and it is basically we against the entire world.


It's i heard -experts- saying sanctions -could- motivate Russians people to accuse, and to fight against -Allies-
But what about the ones who are really in charge ? The ones who are really losing alot of money ? They will push to oust Putin and this could stop the war.
Second advantage is with sanctions Russia will not be able to maintain an high-tech conventional war cost; their troops may end up being massacred in trenches by Drones.

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#3792
Apr 8 2022 11:48am
Quote (thesnipa @ 9 Apr 2022 01:42)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0HL4L6Pa-4

fracking costs more atm than russian or opec oil, but there's still the above issue.


Holy shit... i just watch it.....the farmers and ranchers are going to get it real bad..... unless they move away..
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Apr 8 2022 11:51am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 9 Apr 2022 01:46)
It's i heard -experts- saying sanctions -could- motivate Russians people to accuse, and to fight against -Allies-
But what about the ones who are really in charge ? The ones who are really losing alot of money ? They will push to oust Putin and this could stop the war.
Second advantage is with sanctions Russia will not be able to maintain an high-tech conventional war cost; their troops may end up being massacred in trenches by Drones.


You do realized from History that the Russians are willing to sacrifice millions of people to fight a war right.
I have heard that some Oligarchs are considering ousting him, but I am not sure how many are still Loyal to Putin and with Putin's history of helping his people commit suicide, are going to be a strong will amongst the few who can take up the task.
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#3794
Apr 8 2022 11:56am
Quote (Santara @ Apr 8 2022 11:41am)
Good evening. We've already been over that. The Kremlin has pressed Tochka units back into service, and the missile fragments pictures are painted green , like the Russians use, not gray like the Ukrainians do. Russian missile confirmed.


Lol

Herp Derp totally confirmed in Santara's mind, which of course means the opposite is most likely true.
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Apr 8 2022 12:01pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Apr 8 2022 12:56pm)
Lol

Herp Derp totally confirmed in Santara's mind, which of course means the opposite is most likely true.


The links have been posted, Ivan.
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Apr 8 2022 12:02pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 8 Apr 2022 17:51)
You do realized from History that the Russians are willing to sacrifice millions of people to fight a war right.
I have heard that some Oligarchs are considering ousting him, but I am not sure how many are still Loyal to Putin and with Putin's history of helping his people commit suicide, are going to be a strong will amongst the few who can take up the task.


It will not work that way, Basic Russian people will start to accuse Putin pretty fast IMO. We are no longer in 1980, they have Internet, phones.
They are also not defending their very own land but send far away in Ukraine...
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Apr 8 2022 12:05pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 9 Apr 2022 02:02)
It will not work that way, Basic Russian people will start to accuse Putin pretty fast IMO. We are no longer in 1980, they have Internet, phones.
They are also not defending their very own land but send far away in Ukraine...


If only
France
Germany
Hungary
China
India

can sit down with Putin and have a little chat..

Not possible I think.
I really dont want a nut case to be pushed into a corner and start happy trigger with the Nukes.
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#3798
Apr 8 2022 12:11pm
I've seen several claims now that the text written on that missile can be interpreted in different ways. Woke MSM too dumb to realize this or are they only interested in only one translation -for the children in this case meaning "to kill the children".

You decide to believe woke MSM or to read other sources too ;)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/tyzha7/the_rocket_that_hit_kramatorsk_had_an_inscription/

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I hate Russians just like all of you but I just want to point put that the meaning „за” can be dual. It does not mean in this case „for the children“ as in „to kill the children“. In this case it means „in revenge of the children“ meaning the braindead brainwashed myth that Ukrainians were killing children in Donbas. If it was to mean „for the children“ as in „for killing children“ it would say „для детей” or just “детям“.

Sorry to burst in like that but as a Slavist I have the undying urge to explain language correctly.
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Apr 8 2022 12:11pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ 8 Apr 2022 17:56)
Lol

Herp Derp totally confirmed in Santara's mind, which of course means the opposite is most likely true.


Need an explanation about this please



Quote (Djunior @ 8 Apr 2022 18:11)
I've seen several claims now that the text written on that missile can be interpreted in different ways. Woke MSM too dumb to realize this or are they only interested in only one translation -for the children in this case meaning "to kill the children".

You decide to believe woke MSM or to read other sources too ;)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/tyzha7/the_rocket_that_hit_kramatorsk_had_an_inscription/


with your bias this will end up in "save the children" ...

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Apr 8 2022 12:13pm
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#3800
Apr 8 2022 12:14pm
Here's the sequence of events for the railway strike:

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1512402456134795264?cxt=HHwWgIC-taqBkf0pAAAA

1) Ukrainian Presidential Advisor Arestovych claims Kramatorsk was hit by an Iskander missile; Western media repeat this claim

2) Zelensky says it's a Tochka-U

3) To prove that Russia uses Tochkas, footage of Belorussian Tochkas from a joint exercise earlier this year is posted


So let me get this straight. At first, they tried to claim it was a Russian Iskander missile - but this was easily proven false, so they switched the claim to a (supposedly) Russian tochka-U and used a picture from a joint excercise in Belarus showing Belarusian military Tochka's as "proof".

You guys are all so gullible it hurts.
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