Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 13 2019 09:30am)

Final sentencing for Paul Manafort today

personally I'm not for throwing the book at him on this last phase as some sort of revenge or example sentencing

the arguments will be over taking responsibility vs the role he played

These couple years of court for white collar crimes are punishments within themselves. You take the money, you stop the crime, you destroy the reputation (deserved) as an anti-cage person I can't see much benefit in long or max prison sentences for these types of criminals

The guy got wrecked and he deserved it but I'm not gonna support life sentences for these old dirtballs

let them have a chance at dying at home with whoever will still stick around them after they have been exposed. To me the real punishment is the process. Throw a little time in there and let him die at home in shame and embarrassment with debt

Quote (IceMage @ Mar 13 2019 09:38am)

I somewhat agree... the government is taking a ton of money from him and he'll still spend a long time in prison. Still, it's problematic that he hasn't taken responsibility. He witness tampered, and then he lied multiple times after agreeing to cooperate.

Quote (Surfpunk @ Mar 13 2019 09:40am)

While he shouldn't necessarily die in prison, 47 months is a slap on the wrist. We'll see what comes out of today's sentencing hearing.

Quote (Surfpunk @ Mar 13 2019 09:40am)

While he shouldn't necessarily die in prison, 47 months is a slap on the wrist..

Quote (IceMage @ 13 Mar 2019 15:45)

In relation to what he could've gotten, sure. But 4 years is a long time, especially for an old man. I'm a bit of a bleeding heart when it comes to how long to lock human beings in a cage.

Quote (IgoSoHard @ 13 Mar 2019 15:48)

I know what you mean, especially in regards to sentencing terms for other crimes, however it’s easy to call 4 years in federal prison a slap on the wrist when it’s not you doing the time.

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 13 2019 08:07am)

Amazing, really curious how much he will take in.




How about guys getting 20 years for selling some low shit or a bike for the 3rd time ? :drool:

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 13 Mar 2019 11:07)

Amazing, really curious how much he will take in.




How about guys getting 20 years for selling some low shit or a bike for the 3rd time ? :drool:

Quote (IceMage @ Mar 13 2019 10:44am)

Judge Amy Berman Jackson: "Court is one of those places where facts still matter."


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ABJ: “It’s not particularly persuasive to argue that an investigation hasn’t found anything when you lied to the investigators”

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"It's hard to understand why an attorney would write that," judge says, about Manafort's defense team's approach. "No collusion" is "simply a non-sequitur."
“Any conspiracy, collusion... was not presented in this case," she said. "Therefore it was not resolved by this case."