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Quote (Uber23 @ Dec 12 2023 10:01am)
Imagine if you had high enough IQ to decipher sarcasm :rofl:


Ahh the old fashion “ I was only pretending to be retarded” Nicely done.
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1 - None of their videos allow comments.
2 - Does a foreigner's ability to locate a region of Russia on the map change the facts presented?
3 - A Russian disident living in Washington DC. Don't try to sweep that under the rug.
4 - I don't have enough time to belittle you for this one. Later.


1. I agree it’s a weak point on my side and doesn’t diminish their argument on merits.

2. Yes it does. PBS is an English language (American) broadcasting service. Majority of the people watching are not from Russia or Respublic of Sakha. It’s like making videos in Russian about problems or fentanyl in California. Nobody truly gives a shit, but they get a visual image that California is a shithole (which is not true). I’m 100% confident none of PBS viewers have been to Sakha in their life.

3. Much like PBS is marked as “governmental broadcasting” - experts they bring should be marked as “USAID paid and sponsored expert living in Washington”. There are bonafide dissidents who suffer and are persecuted for their political opinions and there are propagandists / agents of foreign influence DIRECTLY paid by foreign governments. Never forget these things while watching vids like this.

4. Anything wrong with it? They clearly say Ugledar on that picture which is controlled by Ukraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vuhledar

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1. I agree it’s a weak point on my side and doesn’t diminish their argument on merits.

2. Yes it does. PBS is an English language (American) broadcasting service. Majority of the people watching are not from Russia or Respublic of Sakha. It’s like making videos in Russian about problems or fentanyl in California. Nobody truly gives a shit, but they get a visual image that California is a shithole (which is not true). I’m 100% confident none of PBS viewers have been to Sakha in their life.

3. Much like PBS is marked as “governmental broadcasting” - experts they bring should be marked as “USAID paid and sponsored expert living in Washington”. There are bonafide dissidents who suffer and are persecuted for their political opinions and there are propagandists / agents of foreign influence DIRECTLY paid by foreign governments. Never forget these things while watching vids like this.

4. Anything wrong with it? They clearly say Ugledar on that picture which is controlled by Ukraine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vuhledar




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Back to topic at hand, rather interesting pattern

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While we are sitting here, needlessly arguing with one another we could be enjoying the world renowned Moscow State Circus!

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Back to topic at hand, rather interesting pattern

https://i.gyazo.com/004744bf8512bc5e8b7be91ff3a3781f.jpg


What about World War 2, Northern War, USSR-Japan war of 1939? Japanese got owned so hard they were afraid to attack Soviet Union during the whole WW2.
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What about World War 2, Northern War, USSR-Japan war of 1939? Japanese got owned so hard they were afraid to attack Soviet Union during the whole WW2.


Well Russia was the one propped up by the western powers during ww2, would've lost like 50,000,000 men if it wasn't for western powers providing them with tech. Irc, one of Russian generals said it himself that Russia would of lost if it wasn't for Western aid.



No idea about Northern War, did Western Powers prop up Japan during the 1939 war?

Wikipedia says no:


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Well Russia was the one propped up by the western powers during ww2, would of lost like 50,000,000 men if it wasn't for western powers providing them with tech. Irc, one of Russian generals said it himself that Russia would of lost if it wasn't for Western aid.
https://gdb.rferl.org/AA47C66E-935B-44B9-9EB1-DED1987766E3_w812_r0_d2.jpg


No idea about Northern War, did Western Powers prop up Japan during the 1939 war?

Wikipedia says no:
https://i.gyazo.com/586135954e95dc74811d2666fd762dcb.png


Well you see - the argument in one of your NAFO Reddit memes immediately crumbles if you start picking it apart. You conveniently skipped Northern War (great big Wikipedia article in Swedish btw).

Japanese were Axis allied and received support from the Nazis (the whole of Europe lol).

WW2 Russia literally fought the whole of collective Europe allied under the government of Nazis.

Land lease kicked in only in 1943 so Russians and Ukrainians had to fight off literal genocidal extermination for two years before they had a fighting chance.

Never forget that Slavs were supposed to be FULLY exterminated or made slaves under lebensraum doctrine. That also includes UPA OUN collaborators.



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Quote (Malopox @ Dec 12 2023 07:57am)
Well you see - the argument in one of your NAFO Reddit memes immediately crumbles if you start picking it apart. You conveniently skipped Northern War (great big Wikipedia article in Swedish btw).

Japanese were Axis allied and received support from the Nazis (the whole of Europe lol).

WW2 Russia literally fought the whole of collective Europe allied under the government of Nazis.

Land lease kicked in only in 1943 so Russians and Ukrainians had to fight off literal genocidal extermination for two years before they had a fighting chance.

Never forget that Slavs were supposed to be FULLY exterminated under lebensraum doctrine. That also includes UPA OUN collaborators.

https://i.imgur.com/0ocUVlH.jpg


Well look, the "meme" as you call it, didn't fall apart because during Northern War Russia had western allies.
Look:
Northern War:


Russia had Denmark, Poland, Austria, Prussia, Hannover and then Britain playing both sides of the conflict it seems.

Now compare it to Crimean War:



Why do you say only in 1943? Russia always positioned itself as unbeatable power able to do everything on its own. It just so happened to coincide that Russia started winning the war when the land-lease kicked in as you say. Russia was doing fine bro, giving up all that land to Fascist Germany and losing millions of people in the process was just super smart tactic. All went according to the plan as they say.

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Quote (Malopox @ Dec 12 2023 03:57pm)
Well you see - the argument in one of your NAFO Reddit memes immediately crumbles if you start picking it apart. You conveniently skipped Northern War (great big Wikipedia article in Swedish btw).

Japanese were Axis allied and received support from the Nazis (the whole of Europe lol).

WW2 Russia literally fought the whole of collective Europe allied under the government of Nazis.

Land lease kicked in only in 1943 so Russians and Ukrainians had to fight off literal genocidal extermination for two years before they had a fighting chance.

Never forget that Slavs were supposed to be FULLY exterminated or made slaves under lebensraum doctrine. That also includes UPA OUN collaborators.

https://i.imgur.com/0ocUVlH.jpg


Poor knowledge on your part regarding Japan and Germany collaboration.
The bulk of exchange was in design and patents from Germany to Japan. They for the most part fought their own separate wars.

The British empire alone sent over £300 million of aid to the Soviet Union; Adjusted for inflation that is over 20 billion pounds.
You should be grateful for the British sailors that navigated the northern passage to feed your starving great grandfathers.

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