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Dec 8 2023 09:50am
Some update from ORYX
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com

Interesting data, interesting evolution and direction.





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Quote (Djunior @ 8 Dec 2023 16:43)
I see some people here seem to be lost, lol

Look at this MASSIVE list of aid sent to Ukraine by dozens of countries, companies and other parties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

Despite the massive support of all of these countries the Great Ukrainian Counteroffensive failed horribly and the elite NATO trained and equipped brigades were ground into dust.

Russia, (admittedly with a little help from Iran and North Korea) has absorbed everything and remarkably easily because they've upped their game and now maintain a huge force in Ukraine instead of a 150K army spread out over a very large territory like in the beginning of the conflict.

And now the usual suspects are celebrating that South Korea is sending shells. Well consider this:

All available 155 mm ammo was already sent to Ukraine including cluster ammo for Christ sake, stock piles were emptied and Ukraine is still being outgunned by the so called shovel guys who are using rusty WW2 equipment they pulled out of museums.


FYI

Seoul has maintained that its policy against providing lethal weapons to Ukraine remains unchanged.

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2023-12-05/national/defense/Korea-denies-change-in-Ukraine-policy-despite-US-report-it-provided-more-artillery-than-Europe/1928320

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Quote (Malopox @ Dec 8 2023 05:00pm)


Countries like South Korea (Switzerland is another example) are being put under pressure by the US or EU and pushed to provide aid to Ukraine which just shows the level of desperation.

I find it funny to see that the usual suspects above celebrate this as a victory while it's just proof of their own govts weakness.

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Dec 8 2023 10:11am
Quote (Djunior @ 8 Dec 2023 18:43)
admittedly with a little help from Iran and North Korea


Oh, those dirty little helpers :)
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Quote (Djunior @ 8 Dec 2023 17:09)
Countries like South Korea (Switzerland is another example) are being put under pressure by the US or EU and pushed to provide aid to Ukraine which just shows the level of desperation.

I find it funny to see that the usual suspects above celebrate this as a victory while it's just proof of their own govts weakness.


It’s more about understanding what is going on.

US and major NATO countries ran out of 155mm shells for Ukraine and Israel so they had to go around the whole world shopping with whomever still wants to sell to them to replenish their own supply.
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Quote (Malopox @ Dec 8 2023 05:19pm)
It’s more about understanding what is going on.

US and major NATO countries ran out of 155mm shells for Ukraine and Israel so they had to go around the whole world shopping with whomever still wants to sell to them to replenish their own supply.


Yep
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Dec 8 2023 12:27pm
So your saying Ukraine has no navy, no air force, no artillery shells and yet the Russian military still hasn't achieved a definitive victory?

Paper pussycat.
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Quote (Uber23 @ Dec 8 2023 12:17pm)
They should ask for 100 aircraft carriers next, seems to irritate the living shit out of you lmao, I love it



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Dec 8 2023 01:23pm
Never mind F-16's the drones are doing work on the meat pirates.

Lol at crux spam :thumbsup:

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Dec 8 2023 01:32pm
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We already knew this administration is shit but now they've truly lost it if this is true.

I'm seeing various contradicting claims right now, let's wait and see



This post was edited by Djunior on Dec 8 2023 02:05pm
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