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Jul 10 2021 07:09am
Quote (fender @ Jul 10 2021 01:35pm)
they are both bs, america also UNDERreports, but they are still more reliable and transparent than china. both bs does NOT mean both EQUALLY bs.


so people dying of cancers, commit suicides and die in car crash, being covid positive and put into covid death calculations is according to you Underreported?
aight pal. keep it up
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Jul 10 2021 07:26am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jul 10 2021 03:09pm)
so people dying of cancers, commit suicides and die in car crash, being covid positive and put into covid death calculations is according to you Underreported?
aight pal. keep it up


we all know the covid death nunbers are pumped in a ridiculous way

does not change the fact that fender is right here

china decided to declare that the pandemic is over for them, when its not to be the first country that restarts the economy and gain the advantage

and that certain states in the us dont really care about the numbers is also true

we can debate all day how much sense all those pcr test numbers make, but it does not change the point here

and i am saying that as a staunch florida approach supporter

IMO the daily case numbers are worthless anyway and its bullshit to report them at this point

covid is an endemic disease now and nobody bothers to report how many people caught a cold

looking at the amount of people in hospital ICU makes sense (if you dont cheat like in germany), but the pure number of "infections" from a positive test means absolutely nothing
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Jul 10 2021 07:42am
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ 10 Jul 2021 15:09)
so people dying of cancers, commit suicides and die in car crash, being covid positive and put into covid death calculations is according to you Underreported?
aight pal. keep it up


just out of curiosity, do you have any reliable source to support that claim, which seems to be based on anecdotes at best? and how do you explain that excess mortality suggests covid deaths are actually UNDERreported / diagnosed?

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
https://nationalpost.com/health/how-excess-deaths-show-covids-real-impact-and-point-to-better-ways-of-combating-pandemics

specific to the red state approach:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/07/briefing/delta-variant-spread-red-states-us.html
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Jul 10 2021 08:59am
Quote (fender @ Jul 10 2021 06:42am)
just out of curiosity, do you have any reliable source to support that claim, which seems to be based on anecdotes at best? and how do you explain that excess mortality suggests covid deaths are actually UNDERreported / diagnosed?

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker
https://nationalpost.com/health/how-excess-deaths-show-covids-real-impact-and-point-to-better-ways-of-combating-pandemics

specific to the red state approach:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/07/briefing/delta-variant-spread-red-states-us.html


You quoted the NYtimes?! They are straight up marxist propaganda, this is probably one of the most unreliable sources to quote for a source.
If you're going to use a source, use a real source, not propaganda.
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Jul 10 2021 09:02am
Quote (BillsRevenge @ Jul 10 2021 07:59am)
You quoted the NYtimes?! They are straight up marxist propaganda, this is probably one of the most unreliable sources to quote for a source.
If you're going to use a source, use a real source, not propaganda.


please provide a list of reliable sources
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Jul 10 2021 09:14am
Quote (theCrossbones @ Jul 10 2021 08:02am)
please provide a list of reliable sources
lul


Imagine quoting a media outlet as a source that publishes Nazi propaganda in plain sight:

https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-reacts-to-offensive-new-york-times-cartoon

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Jul 10 2021 09:23am
Quote (BillsRevenge @ Jul 10 2021 08:14am)
Imagine quoting a media outlet as a source that publishes Nazi propaganda in plain sight:

https://www.adl.org/news/press-releases/adl-reacts-to-offensive-new-york-times-cartoon


thats not what I asked for
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Jul 10 2021 10:10am
Quote (Melatonina @ Jul 10 2021 02:33am)
you take the flu shot every year
invalid opinion


I'm a healthcare professional, some of us have to be grown ups.
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Jul 10 2021 10:31am
Quote (BillsRevenge @ 10 Jul 2021 16:59)
You quoted the NYtimes?! They are straight up marxist propaganda, this is probably one of the most unreliable sources to quote for a source.
If you're going to use a source, use a real source, not propaganda.


the times article is commenting based on data those states published themselves. are you suggesting that the difference between red and blue states does indeed NOT exist, those numbers are false, or what is your point here? which numbers do you think represent the states fairly? any source?

concerning the point about excess mortality: those are also official numbers - can you address the point i made about them suggesting that covid deaths are actually under-reported?

or is the whole point of your post to reject every FACT by trying to smear the source, while only believing what OAN or some facebook conspiracy karen tell you?
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Jul 10 2021 10:33am
Quote (fender @ Jul 10 2021 09:31am)
the times article is commenting based on data those states published themselves. are you suggesting that the difference between red and blue states does indeed NOT exist, those numbers are false, or what is your point here? which numbers do you think represent the states fairly? any source?

concerning the point about excess mortality: those are also official numbers - can you address the point i made about them suggesting that covid deaths are actually under-reported?

or is the whole point of your post to reject every FACT by trying to smear the source, while only believing what OAN or some facebook conspiracy karen tell you?


Ive ask him to provide a source and obviously trump's twitter is closed so he has none.
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