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#37421
Dec 5 2023 10:39pm
Quote (zorzin @ Dec 5 2023 06:19pm)
Apples and oranges my friend. Uncle Sam would've spent 10 trillion dollars to secure American oil interests in the middle east. Ukraine doesn't offer enough collateral to warrant anymore American taxpayers money funding the proxy war.


I heard eastern Ukraine has some very large lithium reserves
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Dec 6 2023 06:42am
Quote (Uber23 @ 6 Dec 2023 01:00)
https://i.gyazo.com/8e1e0c4e0ed7b68420ab85bd0b3cc11f.png


It's funny, and technically perfectly accurate.
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#37423
Dec 6 2023 08:37am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Dec 6 2023 01:42pm)
It's funny, and technically perfectly accurate.


In reality Russia and Ukraine were very close to sign a peace deal but the West decided to kill it.

You know this right? Or don't you
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Dec 6 2023 09:40am
Quote (Djunior @ 6 Dec 2023 15:37)
In reality Russia and Ukraine were very close to sign a peace deal but the West decided to kill it.
You know this right? Or don't you


In june 2022 Puta-Putin said he would wait and attack again like Peter the Great. You know this right? So good luck with your peass deals.
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Dec 6 2023 09:43am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Dec 6 2023 03:40pm)
In june 2022 Puta-Putin said he would wait and attack again like Peter the Great. You know this right? So good luck with your peass deals.


source ?

Quote (Djunior @ Dec 6 2023 02:37pm)
In reality Russia and Ukraine were very close to sign a peace deal but the West decided to kill it.

You know this right? Or don't you


source ? oh wait, that source was already provided and validated.
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#37426
Dec 6 2023 09:54am
Ah the appeasement fanboys return!

Appeasing tyrants... When did we try that before?
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#37427
Dec 6 2023 09:57am
Quote (ferdia @ 6 Dec 2023 16:43)
source ?
source ? oh wait, that source was already provided and validated.


I posted it in this topic two times already. It was a speech to young entrepreneurs.
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#37428
Dec 6 2023 11:30am
Quote (ferdia @ 6 Dec 2023 16:43)
source ?



He was misquoted mentioning the results of Northern War and particularly Treaty of Nystad which returned lands that Sweden captured in 1600s. This was done in the context of discussing recapture of Crimea which was gifted to what now amounts an openly hostile nation.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Ingria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Nystad

Our local bigots are full of shit as usual, desperately grasping at straws.

In other news I was listening to Darryl Coopers series on Israel & Palestine these weeks as I lack historical context to meaningfully participate in Israel thread beside the general condemntation of human suffering (https://martyrmade.com/fear-loathing-in-the-new-jerusalem/ - strongly recommend it
ferdia
- it's a 20 hour commitment, but I thoroughly enjoyed the added context).

Turns out Darryl also put out a pretty insightful 3 hour piece on Ukraine/Russia in March 2022 right when this mess started.

He provides a lot of required nuance and retrospective. I would give it a listen:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/04i6x4kp00XQAfBJyW3Rna
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Dec 6 2023 11:36am
Local bigots, what a fucking irony. :rofl:
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Dec 6 2023 11:41am
Quote (Malopox @ Dec 6 2023 05:30pm)
He was misquoted mentioning the results of Northern War and particularly Treaty of Nystad which returned lands that Sweden captured in 1600s. This was done in the context of discussing recapture of Crimea which was gifted to what now amounts an openly hostile nation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5XdwlyWgSs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Northern_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Ingria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Nystad

Our local bigots are full of shit as usual, desperately grasping at straws.

In other news I was listening to Darryl Coopers series on Israel & Palestine these weeks as I lack historical context to meaningfully participate in Israel thread beside the general condemntation of human suffering (https://martyrmade.com/fear-loathing-in-the-new-jerusalem/ - strongly recommend it ^ferdia - it's a 20 hour commitment, but I thoroughly enjoyed the added context).

Turns out Darryl also put out a pretty insightful 3 hour piece on Ukraine/Russia in March 2022 right when this mess started.

He provides a lot of required nuance and retrospective. I would give it a listen:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/04i6x4kp00XQAfBJyW3Rna


thanks for all this / afk listening to that (the ukraine / russian podcast first)

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 6 2023 11:47am
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