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Dec 3 2023 12:28pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Dec 2 2023 08:45pm)



Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 2 2023 09:57pm)
I thought it was a fairly accurate assessment.

Its important to distinguish what "winning" is for Putin and what it translates to for ordinary Russians, and at what cost.


Nice pipe dream, lol

Early November the EU admitted that they failed and can never deliver the promised quantity of 155 mm ammo https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/11/11/eu-predictably-admits-it-wont-hit-artillery-shell-pledge-for-ukraine/

Quotes from the article I linked

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EU ammunition production plan unrealistic


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Ukraine’s needs: 590,000 shells a month


But hey keep dreaming :thumbsup:
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Quote (Djunior @ Dec 3 2023 06:28pm)
Nice pipe dream, lol

Early November the EU admitted that they failed and can never deliver the promised quantity of 155 mm ammo https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/11/11/eu-predictably-admits-it-wont-hit-artillery-shell-pledge-for-ukraine/

Quotes from the article I linked





But hey keep dreaming :thumbsup:


I said it was accurate. You struggling today?
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I said it was accurate. You struggling today?


Delivering 1 million shells to Ukraine by March 2024 is still accurate?

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https://archive.ph/Ck33X

Economist - "Putin seems to be winning the war in Ukraine—for now"


No. Try reading through the posts again.

You act like a man with a fork, in a world full of soup.

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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Dec 3 2023 07:54pm)
No. Try reading through the posts again.

You act like a man with a fork, in a world full of soup.


I see, you quoted Meanwhile though (his shell production hopium)

BTW this just out, the fuhrer is getting less and less popular. Another Maidan coup soon?

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Did you see this? Featuring Stoltenberg comments on NATO ammo production. Feel free to comment



This post was edited by Djunior on Dec 3 2023 01:35pm
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Quote (Djunior @ 3 Dec 2023 20:35)
Did you see this? Featuring Stoltenberg comments on NATO ammo production. Feel free to comment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDPLnlSb2Ss


I think you need to remember that the current propaganda wave admonishing Zelensky is not going to solve Ukraine/Russia as this is just a search for a convenient scapegoat. The grand game of handicapping Russia through Ukrainan manpower will continue no matter if Arestovich, Zaluzhnyy or Zelensky is in charge.

I honestly feel bad for Ukrainians here. They have been misled to believe the world wants them to win, while the interested parites just wanted Russia to lose and the common folks just got confused by the nuanced outcomes and let themselves be used in those manipulative power plays.

This post was edited by Malopox on Dec 3 2023 01:49pm
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I think you need to remember that the current propaganda wave admonishing Zelensky is not going to solve Ukraine/Russia as this is just a search for a convenient scapegoat. The grand game of handicapping Russia through convenient use of Ukrainan manpower will continue no matter if Arestovich, Zaluzhnyy or Zelensky is in charge.

I honestly feel bad for Ukrainians here. They have been misled to believe the world wants them to win, while the interested parites just wanted Russia to lose and the common folks just got confused by the nuanced outcomes and let themselves be used in those manipulative power plays.


Of course, that's been clear to me from the beginning and NATO still insists that Ukraine will become a NATO member no matter the cost for that country.

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Quote (Djunior @ 3 Dec 2023 20:35)
Did you see this? Featuring Stoltenberg comments on NATO ammo production. Feel free to comment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDPLnlSb2Ss


Please slow down with CUX NEWS :rofl:
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