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Nov 30 2023 04:16am
How dare anyone make comparisons to Nazis and invade a sovereign country over it.

Wait :unsure:
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Quote (Malopox @ Nov 30 2023 10:05am)
Politico has tested the new lows publicly comparing Russian Central Bank governor Elvira Nabiullina to convicted nazi war criminals.

https://i.imgur.com/5dJFcm6.jpg

I find it amusing to see Politico admit publicly the impotence of supposedly omnipotent western financial sanctions, being bested in a fair fight by a Muslim
Woman at the head of Russian Central Bank.

A reminder that Elvira has been named by Central Bank Governor of the Year by Euromoney and "Central Banker of the Year, Europe" by the British magazine The Banker.
^ofthevoid ^ferdia


I read the article. thanks. they really did not pull any punches. it no longer surprises me that there are so many comments relating to WW2 and the holocaust, its the "in" thing to do nowadays, either in the Ukraine war or the Israeli conflict. its just propaganda. we can talk all day about whether the us toppled the pro russian government or not, its a fact that they armed ukraine to the teeth, and scuppered last years peace deal, and they are on the far side of the planet on russia and china's doorstep, knocking. where it will all end i simply dont know.

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Nov 30 2023 04:19am
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How dare anyone make comparisons to Nazis and invade a sovereign country over it.

Wait :unsure:


There you go. First comment few minutes after i posted. Here is a question for you:

Would you compare Tony Blair to a Nazi?
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Nov 30 2023 04:27am
Quote (Malopox @ Nov 30 2023 10:19am)
There you go. First comment few minutes after i posted. Here is a question for you:

Would you compare Tony Blair to a Nazi?


i would not personally compare anyone to a Nazi, but thats just me.

in terms of the narrative, you probably saw the blinken cringe moment re: china, dictator comment from biden - question for you - how does russia typically respond to articles like this, do they respond ? compared to how the chinese respond.
what i mean is, russia is very measured. they seem to do proportionate responses. you do this, we do that, etc. do they react in the same way as the chinese or do they roll with the punches ? i am referring specifically to media, not events.
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Nov 30 2023 04:35am
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There you go. First comment few minutes after i posted. Here is a question for you:

Would you compare Tony Blair to a Nazi?


Only if I wanted to invade his property under false pretences.

What about yourself?
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i would not personally compare anyone to a Nazi, but thats just me.

in terms of the narrative, you probably saw the blinken cringe moment re: china, dictator comment from biden - question for you - how does russia typically respond to articles like this, do they respond ? compared to how the chinese respond.
what i mean is, russia is very measured. they seem to do proportionate responses. you do this, we do that, etc. do they react in the same way as the chinese or do they roll with the punches ? i am referring specifically to media, not events.


It’s hard for me to judge as I’m not living in Russia and do not own a TV for 18 years now. Based off internet alone I would say that attacks like these unite Russians as they are shown that the stakes in this game are being raised and if major western outlets compare them to Nazis - this means that there could be absolutely no thought of losing this conflict.

Im also personally saddened by the complete collapse of Russian liberal movement who have dishonored themselves through a multitude of scandals where their links to USAID and numerous other organizations were uncovered which completely negates their political weight in the society. I feel my personal political compass has drifted away from a left leaning liberal to a conservative right during the course of the past two years.

I’m also seeing a rise of a new wave of nationalistic bloggers targeting different audiences in Russia (working class, TikTok, intellectuals). Russia is also making it easier to repatriate for Russians abroad (citizens and ex-citizens alike, eg new law on citizenship of 26th October 2023) and I personally know two Russians who have quit executive positions (one Managing Director and one Team Lead) at major public Western companies headquartered in Amsterdam and returned to Moscow.

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Only if I wanted to invade his property under false pretences.

What about yourself?


Are you sure you are being consistent in your thinking?

And a follow up question - since you seem to support the notion of calling anyone who invades a sovereign country a Nazi (which is a wrong definition, but let’s not get into semantics) - wouldn’t it be prudent to call your domestic Nazis to account first before meddling into international politics?
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Quote (Malopox @ Nov 30 2023 10:39am)
Are you sure you are being consistent in your thinking?

And a follow up question - since you seem to support the notion of calling anyone who invades a sovereign country a Nazi (which is a wrong definition, but let’s not get into semantics) - wouldn’t it be prudent to call your domestic Nazis to account first before meddling into international politics?


Not sure your keeping up here? Care to try reading through again and respond accordingly?

"since you seem to support the notion of calling anyone who invades a sovereign country a Nazi"

Where did I say that?
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Quote (Malopox @ Nov 30 2023 10:37am)
It’s hard for me to judges as I’m not living in Russia and do not own a TV for 18 years now. Based off internet alone I would say that attacks like these unite Russians as they are shown that the stakes in this game are being raised and if major western outlets compare them to Nazis - this means that there could be absolutely no thought of losing this conflict.

Im also personally saddened by the complete collapse of Russian liberal movement who have dishonored themselves through a multitude of scandals where their links to USAID and numerous other organizations were uncovered which completely negates their political weight in the society. I feel my personal political compass has drifted away from a left leaning liberal to a conservative right during the course of the past two years.

I’m also seeing a rise of a new wave of nationalistic bloggers targeting different audiences in Russia (working class, TikTok, intellectuals). Russia is also making it easier to repatriate for Russians abroad (citizens and ex-citizens alike, eg new law on citizenship of 26th October 2023) and I personally know two Russians who have quit executive positions (one Managing Director and one Team Lead) at major public Western companies headquartered in Amsterdam and returned to Moscow.


thanks for this insight.
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