Thanks for clarifying. They seem to be redeploying T-64 also. I still think these old ones are going for Donetzk/Luhansk militia.

insight would be greatly appreciated.

as to the organ farming i agree its likely not from the top orders, its just known about and ignored by the top.

Oh yes.
As a matter of fact depending on which party was elected to the government in Australia , their policy changes towards China.
The John Howard, Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd years were very welcoming towards the Chinese.

But now no longer.
The Chinese have to take a blame on this. They did in fact try to influence politicians and the politics in Australia to a certain point.
And it back fired.

The Chinese are taking a more laid back strategy with New Zealand though, thats why business as usual with the Kiwis.

Genocide ( I know you are talking about the Xinjiang Area the Uyghur )

Let me go in point form

1. Genocide ( No ) Cultural Genocide ? ( Yes, you can put it that way.)
2. Concentration Camps / Re education centers ( Yes )
3. 1 Million or more Uyghur in Camps ( No ) I believe the number is around 100k to 200k at max. ( Most have been released )
4. Chinese government encouraging inter marriage between Han Chinese and Uyghur (Yes) but not forced

First thing first we have to understand why the Chinese government did that. It got worst after 2009.
If you are talking about the Muslim population , the Chinese never had problems with the Muslims. As a matter of fact some of their top generals in the army in History are Muslims.

That being said Xinjiang is full of resources and it is a place and region that the Chinese government will not give up.
I know it is a bad analogy but put it this way so please pardon me if this doesnt sound right.

If Texas or Hawaii wants to separate or there is an independent movement , I am sure the federal government will do something
Texas ( oil )
Hawaii ( Strategic)

Organ Farming, the central government will not allow it , it might have happened before and if it did I am not surprised. But for the past 10 years at least I dont think such cases happened anymore.
Does the central government knows about it ? I am really not sure, they might and even if they try to stop it, it takes some time. There are some really disgusting gangs and officials in China in Tier 3 to 5 cities and township . I can assure you.

In the scenario where Russia actual governement(s) fall an finally join the west, and that countries around China continue to grow without being worried because protected by the west, then China may end up not being supreme at all, especially with its ageing population.

If the Russia government falls. But we have to take India into the equation as well.
But the population in India and China combine is almost half the world's population.

There are ardent supporters of the West and USA in the Indo Pacific region.
But honestly speaking there ain't many.
You can count with one hand.

And yes, China is now experiencing a population problem.
But China can make policies really quick if they want to , to solve the problem.
They have already studied places like Japan, South Korea, Singapore where these countries are experiencing population problems.

And some of their polices can be a bit drastic if they want to solve the population problem but they can be rather effective.

Any insights on the reports/rumors about forced sterilizations of Uyghur girls and women? If these sterilizations are true, how does that not amount to genocide?

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The Himalaya is like a wall

i am sure that the muslim imprisonment is very similar to how we treated the indians in the 1800s. smaller and smaller reservations of land, constant moving, and violent reactions to uprisings.

this is one of america's greatest domestic shames, along with slavery. and we as the US shouldnt allow China to do the same. but we will.

They would rather the Han Chinese marry the girls and produce babies then to sterilize them.

There are a lot of reports out there in the West.
But I have also spoken to a number of Uryhurs in XinJiang and those that came to Shenzhen, Hong Kong and Guangzhou area to work.
They painted a different picture to me.
They are angry at the government for trying to change their culture but the sterilization is a bit far fetch
That being said , if you say there are forced sterilizations I wouldn't be surprised either.
I am not good enough with this subject on sterilization (forced) enough to make a statement on it.

I don't want to give wrong information and I am only basing on the information I get when i was doing trade in Xinjiang and speaking to a number of natives.