My version of Heaven you say? When did I ever claim that it was my version? In my knowledge not everybody wants to go to Heaven for some strange reason yet they also do not want to go to Hell either. All you want is to not get punished for your sins.
I tell you the truth, there is no middle ground here. You will either get punished for all eternity for serving yourself and saying get lost to God or you will get to be with your LORD and Savior Jesus Christ in Heaven.

Oh and if you really want to go down that path, my earliest ever conceivable memory is before I even existed at the very beginning of it all. I'm referring to before the Universe was created, I did not exist yet I know what I saw.
How do I know the timeline? I remember from the very start what seemed like moments going through time even though it did not exist. You want to know what I conceivably saw even though I was not there?
Absolute and complete, utter darkness...black. I could also describe the feeling even though I never existed.

Stand in a complete dark room, not thinking, breathing or moving. Feel absolutely nothing like you weren't even there. That is what it is like to not exist. So those who do are not born as of yet? I know what they conceivably see even though they are not even in the womb as of yet.

You are also right in saying that the Bible was written by primitive people. Moses was not much of a speaker yet God chose him to lead the Israelite's out of slavery. God chose Peter even though he would deny Jesus 3 times. Judas would betray him. God chose what was weak and pitiful in this world to shame the strong.
Do you even know that Paul was once Saul, murdering Christians? Yet all of these people had one thing in common, they all saw the glory of God first hand. They wrote down what they saw and we're reading their testimony.

Yes the one version in the Bible you follow. Ah the good ol you just don't want to get punished for your sins. You just sin and get forgiven by saying a repenting prayer. Then your good to go. You can do this as many times as you want. Hell you have a human sacrifice that takes it all away. What a joke. I wouldn't even call it a sacrifice because he came back. At least I would take my punishment like a man. You don't have proof of sin just like you don't have proof of Heaven. The Bible doesn't help your case. I'm sorry you have no idea what was before the Universe began and no idea what it was before you was born. How do you know it was black and not a different color? You didn't have eyes to see the color nor a brain to process what was going on and to remember it all.
I'd stick to my guns no matter.

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How is it a joke? Explain that to me. I reckon you don't even know the meaning of the word sacrifice. Giving your life for somebody else. You would take your punishment like a man yet the very next sentence you say there is no proof of sin. That is quite a contradictory statement right there. Sin is serving yourself and living for this world as opposed to serving God, which would result in serving others. We cannot prove nor disprove God, we walk by faith and not by sight. If we walk by sight then it is not faith nor hope for who hopes for what they see? What about those who are physically blind? They'll never be able to see. The Bible alone didn't help me believe, I had an experience outside of the Bible which made me believe. As for what was before the Universe...
Genesis 1: 2 "Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."

I've heard it all before. Your reaction is no different and thus isn't extraordinary. I do not have to prove myself to you, I can let other people's testimonies do that for me to show you I'm not the only one. All these people would disagree with you. http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Can-Remember-Being-Born/753647

He didn't give his life because he came back 3 days later. If he stayed dead then sure it would a sacrifice. It's a complete joke you could go around raping children and killing people all you want and still go to heaven if you repent of all that.
Yes I would if it was all true. (Here is some context since obviously you missed it)
Sin is serving myself? Lmao. What makes you think what I do is serving for myself? I'm not selfish. Wasn't you gloating claiming you was the victor going to heaven? "Oh yes you do see it. I'm still going to Heaven when I die. I don't know about you. Who is the real victor here when you look at the big picture?"
Seems like you believe for some selfish gain when you die. Nothing against you I'm sure you're a decent human being.


Well I guess you can't disprove the other possible Gods either aye? You adamantly believe yours is the correct one though. I rather have my senses than faith. People had faith for many Gods before your God and after. People still have faith in different Gods than you.


I feel bad for those who are suffering from it. It's it great the grand designer made it where people are born blind?


What was your experience?


So the Earth was being made before the Universe?

Obviously you haven't from the way this discussion is going. I don't claim to be extraordinary. I just don't up and believe something without some proof and some critical thinking. Anecdotal stories from other people claiming they can remember things before they was born is not proof.
Would you believe the stories of all the people who claim that had been abducted and got anal probes by aliens? Why not? All the people would disagree with you.

Ask yourself this one question; would you be a Christian if you were born in New Dehli?

Lurk moar newfag

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...there are 30 million Christians in India .

That's 2.3% A minuscule group compared to Hindus, which are over a billion. So chances are that you would be born a Hindu.