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Nov 20 2023 04:40am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 20 Nov 2023 11:38)
You can enlighten yourself quite easily. This is not even a matter for debate, which makes it quite comical that you chose this hill to die on.

Russias own stated war aims, changed. Multiple times in fact.

This is an indisputable fact for anyone capable of pragmatism or with any shred of objectivity.

If you don't fall into that category that is 100% a you problem.


I'm literally asking you the simplest of the questions that was discussed here multiple times over the past ~2 years.

You are the one choosing a wierd hill to die on, while posting articles by Ukranian psyop guys.

Again:

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 20 Nov 2023 10:42)
The goalposts changed after they failed to take out Zelensky and got their asses handed to them at hostomel.

Are you denying that?


Could you please let us know, what were the initial goals, how were they defined and how did they change?
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Nov 20 2023 06:04am
Quote (Malopox @ 20 Nov 2023 10:28)
I'm literally quoting your own posts. You wrote those things, not me. I'm just trying to make sense of it by asking you to clarify your own words.
All of these sound like some sex fantasies and are completely made up with no sources provided.


The ratio is definitely in favour of Ukraine. I listed, unlike you, some arguments in previous posts:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=654353091
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=654353269
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=654355789

You are the one with "sex fantasies" here, like a Putin speech when he says that "the special operation is going according to the plan."

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Quote (Malopox @ Nov 20 2023 10:40am)
I'm literally asking you the simplest of the questions that was discussed here multiple times over the past ~2 years.

You are the one choosing a wierd hill to die on, while posting articles by Ukranian psyop guys.

Again:



Could you please let us know, what were the initial goals, how were they defined and how did they change?


You quoted me, so do the research yourself.
Your lack of knowledge on the subject is a you problem.

Also that's rich coming from someone who's daily axe to grind is posting how Ukraine has failed and finding obscure ways to be mad about anything pro Ukrainian.

Have a stern word with yourself.
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Nov 20 2023 06:08am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 20 2023 08:05am)
You quoted me, so do the research yourself.
Your lack of knowledge on the subject is a you problem.

Also that's rich coming from someone who's daily axe to grind is posting how Ukraine has failed and finding obscure ways to be mad about anything pro Ukrainian.

Have a stern word with yourself.

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Nov 20 2023 06:52am
Quote (Meanwhile @ 20 Nov 2023 13:04)
The ratio is definitely in favour of Ukraine. I listed, unlike you, some arguments in previous posts:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=654353091
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=654353269
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=92094408&f=119&p=654355789

You are the one with "sex fantasies" here, like a Putin speech when he says that "the special operation is going according to the plan."


We have been discussing Ukrainian losses. You have injected yourself into this discussion trying to divert it elsewhere. When asked directly what your opinion is you are trying to bring some personal sexual preferences into this discussion, which is very weird, but who am I to judge you.

All three of your posts are an example of you trying to troll the discussion and attempt to divert it elsewhere. The question was very simple: What do YOU think is the number of Ukrainian loses so far and how can you justify it?

Follow-up question: Do I understand it correctly that you really believe that Russia is losing 3:1 or 4:1 in KIA losses whether defending or attacking, while having artillery, weapons and air superiority?

This post was edited by Malopox on Nov 20 2023 07:16am
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Nov 20 2023 06:53am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 20 Nov 2023 13:05)
You quoted me, so do the research yourself.
Your lack of knowledge on the subject is a you problem.

Also that's rich coming from someone who's daily axe to grind is posting how Ukraine has failed and finding obscure ways to be mad about anything pro Ukrainian.

Have a stern word with yourself.


I'm literally asking you a very simple question that you refuse to answer.

Is that perhaps because you are unable to answer it in a way that suits your view of the world?

I can do this all day long:

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 20 Nov 2023 10:42)
The goalposts changed after they failed to take out Zelensky and got their asses handed to them at hostomel.

Are you denying that?


Could you please let us know, what were the initial goals, how were they defined and how did they change?


This post was edited by Malopox on Nov 20 2023 06:54am
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Nov 20 2023 07:21am
Quote (Malopox @ Nov 20 2023 12:53pm)
I'm literally asking you a very simple question that you refuse to answer.

Is that perhaps because you are unable to answer it in a way that suits your view of the world?

I can do this all day long:



Could you please let us know, what were the initial goals, how were they defined and how did they change?


Do it all day ^^

No.
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Nov 20 2023 07:24am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 20 Nov 2023 14:21)
Do it all day ^^

No.


Okay., fair. We will count this as:

Malopox 1:0 Prox1m1ty.

On to the next subject then.

PS: I strongly advise you to still google the three demands Russians presented on 24th of February 2022. It's quite interesting how hard it is to find those now as you have to dig through pages of garbage ukrainian internet warrior articles masquerading as "think tank analysis".
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Nov 20 2023 07:32am
Quote (Malopox @ Nov 20 2023 01:24pm)
Okay., fair. We will count this as:

Malopox 1:0 Prox1m1ty.

On to the next subject then.

PS: I strongly advise you to still google the three demands Russians presented on 24th of February 2022. It's quite interesting how hard it is to find those now as you have to dig through pages of garbage ukrainian internet warrior articles masquerading as "think tank analysis".


Look at you champ, chalking up wins for yourself.
I'm happy for you :thumbsup:

PS? :rofl:

I'll pass on any advice from you, but thanks for thinking of me.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 20 2023 07:32am
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Nov 20 2023 07:36am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 20 Nov 2023 14:32)
Look at you champ, chalking up wins for yourself.
I'm happy for you :thumbsup:

PS? :rofl:

I'll pass on any advice from you, but thanks for thinking of me.


How else would you describe what just transpired here?

You dodged a very simple question that I assume is known to everyone who posts here regularly - described the demands of one of the sides of the conflict.

It occurs to me that you either do not know or choose not to know.
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