Weird, but why painting fresh Z when you can remove it, paint a cross or whatever, and claim it was an Ukrainian one ? Seems you have one-way thinking.

I don't, I'm just showing you a pattern

Now you have the full picture of your reasoning braho

Use it

Yeah, you are claiming Oryx is falsifying its data
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/leedrake5/Russia-Ukraine/master/Plots/current_ifv.jpg

If your data is gathered this way it doesn't mean you falsify it or not, you just gather it as is and get the result. It will take years if not decades to analyze this conflict. Now we are stuck between 1942-1943 propaganda of both sides. Support your local team.

This post was edited by Norlander on Nov 19 2023 11:57am

I mean the USA was chased out of Vietnam by rice farmers with bamboo sticks, it's not like this means anything, Russia could absolutely reduce Ukraine to dust and ashes in a month if they truly wanted to, its a matter of how much force they wish to commit

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 19 2023 02:10pm

Imho it's just a very wrong comparison: first it's like 60 years ago without drones and precise weapons, missiles etc...
Second you could make it right if Vietnam was as much advanced as US (minus nuclear weapons), and if it was sharing borders with US, But it's not so try to find another example.

Btw there are none, Ukraine is a special case of a failure "special operation" and the future mostly depends of western military assistance/support.
It's pretty clear that now Ukraine will never return to Russia, it may concede some territories, unlikely atm.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Nov 19 2023 02:32pm

No, they can't.

Conventionally anyway.

That is why it is still going on almost 2 years later

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Nov 19 2023 04:50pm

They absolutely can

USA was in Vietnam for years, and that doesn't mean they lacked the ability to lay waste to the country, they didn't because it would have drastically escalated the cold war, much the same as if Russia decided to lay waste to Ukraine