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Nov 13 2023 08:18am
Al Jazeera has zero bias on this also
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Nov 13 2023 09:39am
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All media is biased and people need to be aware that just because you're reading multiple publications i.e. Reuters, BBC, Guardian, Economist, WSJ, etc, that doesn't necessarily mean you will get an accurate view just because of the diversity.

We're English speakers, and all of these sources are western, which undeniably has a position in this war and generally wants for Russia to be degraded. As such, media coverage and framing of this conflict is biased on a collective basis, and that's been the case since the start of the war. Real diversity would be probably reading Russian, Chinese, etc.


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Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 13 2023 02:08pm)
All media is biased and people need to be aware that just because you're reading multiple publications i.e. Reuters, BBC, Guardian, Economist, WSJ, etc, that doesn't necessarily mean you will get an accurate view just because of the diversity.

We're English speakers, and all of these sources are western, which undeniably has a position in this war and generally wants for Russia to be degraded. As such, media coverage and framing of this conflict is biased on a collective basis, and that's been the case since the start of the war. Real diversity would be probably reading Russian, Chinese, etc.


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Nov 13 2023 12:30pm
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Economist, once a great news platform has basically become a neocon mouthpiece in the last number of years. I would take what they say with a grain of salt. I think that number is a lot higher than what they say. To me a better indication of how many lost is the number of mobilizations. You wouldn't need to be basically be taking everyone and anyone off streets in a country of 30 million if you only lost 70k.


They are drafting 40+ year old men now aren't they?

It boggles my mind how Ukraine is willing to genocide their own people just to spite Russia, very similar to the Palestinians
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They are drafting 40+ year old men now aren't they?

It boggles my mind how Ukraine is willing to genocide their own people just to spite Russia, very similar to the Palestinians


Except for the part where the Ukrainians are defending themselves against terrorist aggressor pariah state which perpetrated numerous acts of genocide on the Ukrainian civilians over the course of last 20 odd months, "state" that invites Taliban and Hamas for official talks.
It would probably boggle your mind how UK+USA+USSR+China were willing to "genocide" their own people during world war 2
What a wild place this is ahahaha, never before seen wild incel mind parallels, mesmerizing

This post was edited by MichaelSwors on Nov 13 2023 06:51pm
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Except for the part where the Ukrainians are defending themselves against terrorist aggressor pariah state which perpetrated numerous acts of genocide on the Ukrainian civilians over the course of last 20 odd months, "state" that invites Taliban and Hamas for official talks.
It would probably boggle your mind how UK+USA+USSR+China were willing to "genocide" their own people during world war 2
What a wild place this is ahahaha, never before seen wild incel mind parallels, mesmerizing


So Russia being a pariah state means that Ukraine should suicide itself? Yeah take that Russia!
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They are drafting 40+ year old men now aren't they?
It boggles my mind how Ukraine is willing to genocide their own people just to spite Russia, very similar to the Palestinians


Considering casualties ratios it's pretty clear that Russians "are the palestinians" .... Thus it's not civilians but all soldiers (more or less well trained)
And Putin continues -Only to save himself and the very few people he represents - ... Which is sad.
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So Russia being a pariah state means that Ukraine should suicide itself? Yeah take that Russia!


Soviet Russia should of just accepted Hitlers demands then, instead of suiciding itself and losing 14,000,000 people in the process.


Russia has the freedom to position itself as an outcast, glorify Putin and his family as revered figures, and even extend hospitality to their close associates, such as the Taliban and Hamas, during tea gatherings.
Nevertheless, if Russia employs aggressive tactics reminiscent of Hitler's strategies and fails to provide any justifiable reasons for its actions against other nations, those targeted countries are justified in defending themselves. The credibility of the Russian word is 0, their military objectives exhibit a consistent pattern of fluctuation - initially, the stated military objective was framed as safeguarding ethnic Russians, marked by an unprovoked attack at 4:00 am (Hello Hitler #2) . However, it is essential to underscore that Ukrainians are the victims in this conflict; they did not initiate provocative actions by launching attacks into Russia akin to a Hamas decapitation trip.

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Quote (MichaelSwors @ Nov 14 2023 08:43am)
...Russia... even extend hospitality to their close associates, such as the Taliban and Hamas, during tea gatherings.


Ye and For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Do they all sit in a room together ? not sure where you are going with this argument...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

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Quote (MichaelSwors @ Nov 14 2023 08:43am)
...it is essential to underscore that Ukrainians are the victims in this conflict; they did not initiate provocative actions by launching attacks into Russia akin to a Hamas decapitation trip.


The conflict in Ukraine related to Ukraine's aspirations (after the 2014 US Backed Coup in Kyiv) breaking away from Russia and joining Nato (accepted, after decades of Russian oppression). Ukraine then proceeded to Bomb ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine, for 7 years, quite similar to how Israel is bombing Palestinians (read: ethnic Turks/other). Russia said stop, kind of similar to how Turkey said stop to Israel, Ukraine refused and doubled down, and then Russia invaded. Hopefully Uncle Sam will not abandon Israel the way it will abandon Ukraine. All indicators suggest it wont, but then we have a different problem - if regional powers give Israel an Ultimatum, which we all know Israel will not comply with ("kill them all, they are less then animals") we could credibly see a huge war breaking out.



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Quote (MichaelSwors @ 14 Nov 2023 09:43)
Soviet Russia should of just accepted Hitlers demands then, instead of suiciding itself and losing 14,000,000 people in the process.
https://i.gyazo.com/457027c96f537c880258dec5302c423f.png

Russia has the freedom to position itself as an outcast, glorify Putin and his family as revered figures, and even extend hospitality to their close associates, such as the Taliban and Hamas, during tea gatherings.
Nevertheless, if Russia employs aggressive tactics reminiscent of Hitler's strategies and fails to provide any justifiable reasons for its actions against other nations, those targeted countries are justified in defending themselves. The credibility of the Russian word is 0, their military objectives exhibit a consistent pattern of fluctuation - initially, the stated military objective was framed as safeguarding ethnic Russians, marked by an unprovoked attack at 4:00 am (Hello Hitler #2) . However, it is essential to underscore that Ukrainians are the victims in this conflict; they did not initiate provocative actions by launching attacks into Russia akin to a Hamas decapitation trip.


Dude you have been drinking the coolaid for too long. Lay it off, carbs make your brain melt.

Every single sentence in your argument sounds like CNN propaganda soundbites with little underlying fact checking.
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