Quote (DizzyBusiness @ Nov 12 2023 10:24am)

The article is shit but it being reported on the way it is across much of western media says something about western (mainly US) intentions, in my opinion

Quote (ferdia @ 12 Nov 2023 18:29)

yes. my private view is that the Washington Post would only have told that fairy tale if it was told to.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 12 2023 06:29am)

yes. my private view is that the Washington Post would only have told that fairy tale if it was told to.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 12 2023 06:40am)

Haven't been catching up, did US throw the Ukrainians under the bus in regards about Nord Stream like I said a year back ?
:lol:

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 12 2023 10:14am)

true. "Accusing Jews as a people ("Israel") of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews is defined as antisemitic". If he had sad "the Israeli government" it would not have been antisemitic.

on a separate note, that Washington post story smells like shit.



pretty much sums it up (with the minor point being nazi's can refer to anyone, not russian, but that the word itself should really not be used in any current debate ukraine/israel at all as its too inflammatory).

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 12 2023 10:58am)

I accused Israel, not Jews. I think Arab Israelis did it. With help from Joe Biden.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 12 2023 11:00am)

ye thats the definition of antisemitism, you cant accuse Israel, this is merely a point of order, understand I am not attacking you here, i have used the word Israel in that topic as well, and that also constitutes antisemitism. if this site had more visible moderators this point could/should have been reinforced. using the term Israel is just being lazy. when referring to Israel its safer (and not antisemitic) to instead say "the Israeli government". obviously, you do you.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 12 2023 11:08am)

ill move this. this is the russia topic.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 12 2023 11:09am)

I already posted this. here it is again:

https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definitions-charters/working-definition-antisemitism

Contemporary examples of antisemitism in public life, the media, schools, the workplace, and in the religious sphere could, taking into account the overall context, include, but are not limited to:

Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

It does not matter what you or I believe, if you want the answer to your question ask some of the Israeli's in the Israel topic.

Quote (Norlander @ 12 Nov 2023 14:23)

https://i.imgur.com/HCzMX0t.jpg

"This is not a metaphor": a Ukrainian deputy threatened to eat Vladimir Putin

The Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, Stefanchuk, promised to eat the President of Russia.

"This is not a metaphor. The time of metaphors and empty promises is over. I will eat him",- said Ruslan Stefanchuk.