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Nov 10 2023 12:54pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ 10 Nov 2023 21:51)
hazardous interpretations leading nowhere. This is why i presented these charts.


Such a contribution, let alone misusing the town's name
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Nov 10 2023 12:55pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 10 2023 06:51pm)
hazardous interpretations leading nowhere. This is why i presented these charts.


look at the link it has charts too. charts do not tell the entire story, but overall the picture looks very grim for Ukraine to me.
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Nov 10 2023 01:03pm
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Such a contribution, let alone misusing the town's name

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look at the link it has charts too. charts do not tell the entire story, but overall the picture looks very grim for Ukraine to me.


What's grim is the russian tyrant his lackeys, along with numerous vectors of these charts. Maybe a shoigu meme could help it in understanding they are doing fine.

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It's not about charts, it's about price a country is willing to pay. And to me Ukraine is going to overpay in blood for it's independence, losing it's territory or not, but Russia will stop this campaign of fratricide someday .

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Nov 10 2023 01:08pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 10 2023 10:51am)
hazardous interpretations leading nowhere. This is why i presented these charts.


acknowledging reality is "hazardous"

this is Soviet Union-level speak
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Nov 10 2023 01:13pm
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It's not about charts, it's about price a country is willing to pay. And to me Ukraine is going to overpay in blood for it's independence, losing it's territory or not, but Russia will stop someday .


I think everyone here, excepted some parasite(s), simply want a regime change in Russia. These charts are easily representing "blood" and the course of the casulaties/losses.
I guess Russia is begging back military equipements to egypt, india etc for a reason. And interesting question would be -when- it's whole USSR stock will be depleted, as example.

Btw conditions aren't the same than during Staline (alot of people weren't demobilized and worked on increasing army stocks). Russia is also paying a price.

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Nov 10 2023 01:16pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 10 2023 07:13pm)
I think everyone here, excepted some parasite(s), simply want a regime change in Russia. These charts are easily representing "blood" and the course of the casulaties/losses.
I guess Russia is begging back military equipements to egypt, india etc for a reason. And interesting question would be -when- it's whole USSR stock will be depleted, as example.

Btw conditions aren't the same than during Staline (alot of people weren't demobilized and worked on increasing army stocks). Russia is also paying a price.


to be clear, i want regime change in Russia, provided that regime change is positive. As it stands the 17-18 ppl "next in line" are all worse then Putin, so be careful what you wish for re: regime change in Russia.
by worse i mean, despotic, holding a grudge, horrible people.

I provided various links during the year which showed that Russia was moving to a war economy, that means Russian (not USSR, USSR is no more) military equipment is increasing in stock. Yes, there are various reports which suggest that Russia is burning through its equipment, and your graph above outlined stuff abandoned, but if the US is telling Ukraine to negotiate, it suggests to me that Russia is not running out anytime soon.

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to be clear, i want regime change in Russia, provided that regime change is positive. As it stands the 17-18 ppl "next in line" are all worse then Putin, so be careful what you wish for re: regime change in Russia.
by worse i mean, despotic, holding a grudge, horrible people.


They are almost at the top already, and let's not forget guys like Gorbatchev get in charge at some point in their history. There's a room for hope. They also have a new generation over the old one.

Like I posted the previous time: Maybe Russians would be interested in joining some Euro-ish bloc.

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Quote (Meanwhile @ 10 Nov 2023 22:22)
They almost at the top, and let's not forget guys like Gorbatchev get in charge at some point in their history. There's a room for hope.
Like I asked previous time: Maybe Russians would be interested in joining some Euro-ish bloc.


Do you accept that this bloc someday will be ran by Russians?
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Do you accept that this bloc someday will be ran by Russians?


Do you drink heavily?
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