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Nov 4 2023 11:12am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 4 Nov 2023 18:08)
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fender defends everything as long as it fits the agenda

reverse UN votes to overwhelmingly pro israel and we would get rage rants about how garbage they are


peak projection, marcel. unlike you i am principled on issues (like calling out EVERY warmonger, like the US, russia, israel... like calling out EVERY human rights abuser, like china, iran, israel, UAE, your dream destination...) whereas you pick based on whatever the propaganda in your bubble suggests is the side to support.
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Nov 4 2023 11:16am
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peak projection, marcel. unlike you i am principled on issues (like calling out EVERY warmonger, like the US, russia, israel... like calling out EVERY human rights abuser, like china, iran, israel, UAE, your dream destination...) whereas you pick based on whatever the propaganda in your bubble suggests is the side to support.


you are indeed principled, almost every time on the wrong side
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Nov 4 2023 11:23am
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you are indeed principled, almost every time on the wrong side


it's a great honour to be identified as "on the wrong side" by a blatantly islamophobe bigot like yourself, a person who regularly uses literal nazi language to de-humanises people of certain religions, countries of origin, sexual orientation, citizen status, or political ideology, a person who lies and misrepresents in order to justify the killing of civilians and children from russia to israel, a climate change denying anti-vaxxer who shills for authoritarians like orbán and trump... you couldn't have flattered me more if you tried, marcel...

your side is hatred and death, bigotry and anti-intellectualism. i'm glad you realise i'm the opposite of that...

This post was edited by fender on Nov 4 2023 11:25am
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it's a great honour to be identified as "on the wrong side" by a blatantly islamophobe bigot like yourself, a person who regularly uses literal nazi language to de-humanises people of certain religions, countries of origin, sexual orientation, citizen status, or political ideology, a person who lies and misrepresents in order to justify the killing of civilians and children from russia to israel, a climate change denying anti-vaxxer who shills for authoritarians like orbán and trump... you couldn't have flattered me more if you tried, marcel...


you completed the dumbass bullshit bingo in one post :rofl:
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Nov 4 2023 12:42pm
Quote (fender @ 4 Nov 2023 19:23)
it's a great honour to be identified as "on the wrong side" by a blatantly islamophobe bigot like yourself, a person who regularly uses literal nazi language to de-humanises people of certain religions, countries of origin, sexual orientation, citizen status, or political ideology, a person who lies and misrepresents in order to justify the killing of civilians and children from russia to israel, a climate change denying anti-vaxxer who shills for authoritarians like orbán and trump... you couldn't have flattered me more if you tried, marcel...

your side is hatred and death, bigotry and anti-intellectualism. i'm glad you realise i'm the opposite of that...


Phobia is irrational fear
Islam fear is not phobia
Its completely rational.
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Nov 4 2023 02:20pm
Quote (fender @ 4 Nov 2023 18:05)
only if you're too ignorant (or dishonest) to know WHY iran got to chair the human rights council, moronically implying it was because of their impeccable record on that issue - because only then would it be the absurd and discrediting "decision" you falsely suggest it is, hack.

and no, you can most definitely tell who the bad actors on certain issues are by looking at which nations voted how, especially if you have overwhelming unity and just a few outliers.

i mean, the UN has repeatedly called out the systemic human rights violations by iran itself. alongside north korea, china, israel, saudi-arabia, and several other middle eastern states they are amongst the worst offenders ofc.

all that said, you completely missed the point to begin with... unsurprisingly...


Dude, I never claimed that Iran got to chair the human rights council because of their track record. I know it's simply a rotation system - but that's the point: a human rights council in which even the worst human rights offenders on the planet get a seat because "it's their turn" has no moral authority whatsoever.

The majority results of UN votes are not necessarily illuminating. First, because huge countries like India or the US only have the same voting power as Togo or Guyana, and second because there are topics where the vote splits along ethnic/religious lines. The fact that there are a ton more muslims people and muslim countries in the world than jewish people or jewish countries causes most UN votes to go against Israel, but doesn't necessarily imply that they are in the wrong.

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Dude, I never claimed that Iran got to chair the human rights council because of their track record. I know it's simply a rotation system - but that's the point: a human rights council in which even the worst human rights offenders on the planet get a seat because "it's their turn" has no moral authority whatsoever.

The majority results of UN votes are not necessarily representative. First, because huge countries like India or the US only have the same voting power as Togo or Guyana, and second because there are topics where the vote splits along ethnic/religious lines. The fact that there are a ton more muslims people and muslim countries in the world than jewish people or jewish countries causes most UN votes to go against Israel, but doesn't necessarily imply that they are in the wrong.


The UN is explicit proof of what we already know: Most nation states in the world are morally bankrupt
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Nov 6 2023 04:19am
Interesting, no new updates here, all people talk about the Israeli situation.
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Interesting, no new updates here, all people talk about the Israeli situation.


There were a bunch of articles explaining recent misfortunes in Ukraine/:

1. The average western voter needs to be explained who’s to blame that everything failed so far. The United States is to blame for not delivering something on time. The Ukrainian generals who don’t know how to fight are to blame. The stupid Ukrainian soldiers who cannot use Western equipment are to blame. The bushes are to blame. Blame the Christmas trees. The weather is to blame. The Russians are to blame. Putin is to blame. And so on, highlight what is necessary.

2. Ukraine will certainly continue to receive money and weapons to continue the war, stories about a “successful offensive in 2024.” emerging. The United States is not going to end the war in Ukraine. Not now, not in the near future. The fact that it has become more difficult to make it does not mean that it will be abandoned and the war will stop on its own.

3. The best way to end the war for Russia on their terms is the military defeat of UA and replacement of their govt. Its not possible to achieve this quickly, so Russia is preparing for a long struggle with the United States and NATO in Ukraine.
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Nov 6 2023 08:19am
Ukraine destroying Russian ships even before these being taken into the fleet.
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