Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 2 2023 02:35pm)

Parallels ? I thik it's twisted since even World War 1 isn't accurate: the agression of Ukraine is pretty unique. Orcs aren't existing in the real world, but I have a video of them complaining being compared with russians if you want.
Israel far right leadership (nazionalists + religious) is deshumanizing Palestinians, assimilating them all as bloody terrorists, in order to apply their neo-zionist plan (which is for some "self defense" and for some others "secure proxy in middle east") => Here you have a parallel eventually :-)

Quote (ferdia @ 2 Nov 2023 15:40)

It is a fact that Western powers are calling their enemies sub human, Russians; Palestinians.
Also, you can sit on whatever fence you want in the face of women and children being blown up, but that does not mean that the rest of the world will sit on that fence with you.

Quote (Malopox @ Nov 2 2023 02:36pm)

PLO leadership - (Fatah) - has recognized State of Israel in 1993 and got absolutely humiliated for doing this as West Bank is still being illegally settled against a direct promise NOT to make further settlements in West Bank in Oslo Accords.

https://peacenow.org.il/en/30-years-after-oslo-the-data-that-shows-how-the-settlements-proliferated-following-the-oslo-accords


HAMAS has used the humilation suffered by Arafat to rally people to their cause and take control of Gaza leadership.



Russians offered a ceasefire in April 2022 brokered a.o. by Erdogan and Bennett which was refused as e.g. Johnson reassured Zelensky they should be fighting. For that alone Johnson should burn in hell.

I also see peculiar difference that bombing the shit out of thousands of kids is not considered a war crime, while taking those kids outside of an active war zone is considered a war crime that ICJ should totally prioritise in investigating just like they investigated all the war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

https://i.imgur.com/n0VZep1.png

It's also peculiar that we don't hear about those millions of Ukranians that decided to flee the war east instead of west. As if they are actually treated with dignity, have been given relocation allowances to settle wherever they wish and are treated like common citizens instead of "human waste and animals".

Remember how your country and France called bullshit on completely made up reasons Brits and Yankees presented to go bomb the shit out Iraq and refused to join in on a gross violation of international law that caused millions of refugees and uncountable suffering? Time to regain some European sovereignty and show Yankees and Brits the door, again and decide your own fate.

Quote (Malopox @ Nov 2 2023 02:36pm)

PLO leadership - (Fatah) - has recognized State of Israel in 1993 and got absolutely humiliated for doing this as West Bank is still being illegally settled against a direct promise NOT to make further settlements in West Bank in Oslo Accords.

https://peacenow.org.il/en/30-years-after-oslo-the-data-that-shows-how-the-settlements-proliferated-following-the-oslo-accords


HAMAS has used the humilation suffered by Arafat to rally people to their cause and take control of Gaza leadership.



Russians offered a ceasefire in April 2022 brokered a.o. by Erdogan and Bennett which was refused as e.g. Johnson reassured Zelensky they should be fighting. For that alone Johnson should burn in hell.

I also see peculiar difference that bombing the shit out of thousands of kids is not considered a war crime, while taking those kids outside of an active war zone is considered a war crime that ICJ should totally prioritise in investigating just like they investigated all the war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan.

https://i.imgur.com/n0VZep1.png

It's also peculiar that we don't hear about those millions of Ukranians that decided to flee the war east instead of west. As if they are actually treated with dignity, have been given relocation allowances to settle wherever they wish and are treated like common citizens instead of "human waste and animals".

Remember how your country and France called bullshit on completely made up reasons Brits and Yankees presented to go bomb the shit out Iraq and refused to join in on a gross violation of international law that caused millions of refugees and uncountable suffering? Time to regain some European sovereignty and show Yankees and Brits the door, again and decide your own fate.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 2 2023 02:40pm)

It is a fact that Western powers are calling their enemies sub human, Russians; Palestinians.
Also, you can sit on whatever fence you want in the face of women and children being blown up, but that does not mean that the rest of the world will sit on that fence with you re: Israel.
also the Aggression of Ukraine, and Gaza, is not unique, they have a larger neighbor that has bullied them for decades and this is not unique in history.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 2 2023 05:17pm)

"It is a fact that Western powers are calling their enemies sub human, Russians; Palestinians."


Eh? You just straight making shit up now? :rofl:

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 2 2023 05:23pm)

remember you were asked to not quote me, and avoid me. if you are civil no problem, but once people start creating multi's again and/or flaming me I will take it to the moderators again.

Russians are called Orc's, this is well documented, and Israeli Government has referred to Palestinians (all of them) as Hamas, and these same individuals have used dehumanizing terms, such as "animals".

If you are not aware of these facts you can go look them up.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 2 2023 05:26pm)

You know full well I never made a multi to troll you, that was a pathetic attempt to frame me; If I wanted to troll you, I did it from my only account and rightly got banned for it if I overstepped the mark.
Hamas behaved like animals. So I agree with anyone calling Hamas animals.

I take issue with why are you generalising "Western powers calling their enemies subhuman"?

Do you think thats an accurate statement? Can you back it up?

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 2 2023 05:38pm)

You or Meanwhile. The most likely candidate was you, noting you flamed multiple users via PM, and in this thread and literally threw your toys because we did not agree with you. If you believe I framed you, by creating such an account, then I would suggest you go talk to Meanwhile. I do not want to talk about this topic noting you/meanwhile are in the wrong, and I am not [ and neither of you condemned that a/c or apologized ].

It is well documented that elements in Ukraine calls Russians Orc's, it is alway well documented that groups online use this same terminology. I linked an articular to this type of language (by the BBC) just the other day.
It is well documented that elements in the Israeli Government refer to Palestinians as less then animals.

Are you trying to suggest this is made up?

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 2 2023 02:44pm)

Apologize for what? Your paranoia?
Ask yourself this, why would I make a multi to flame you, when I have done it from my only account many times?
If I'd made a multi the reports you made with have been taken seriously. Clearly, they were not.
You should have a less inflated opinion of yourself and apologise for falsely accusing me.

At bold, ok.

So you agree that your turn of phrase was over generalising and in the round was inaccurate?
"Western powers calling their enemies subhuman"
That is going by your own explanation. What you meant was elements in Ukrainian and elements in the Israeli government?

If that is the case I can agree. I can actually agree as well with Ukrainians that would call Russian rapist invaders orcs. And Israelis that call Hamas beheading murderers animals.
Its not dehumanising someone if they are acting inhumanely. Its accurate and justified. Why would you argue any differently?

Being honest with yourself I'm sure you can agree "western powers" means something completely different.