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Quote (Meanwhile @ 16 Oct 2023 22:18)



GL trying to switch on Israel-Palesting discussion, dodger.


Just exposing your double standards, that’s all.
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Quote (Malopox @ 16 Oct 2023 22:25)
Just exposing your double standards, that’s all.


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not sure if such thing is even true...

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Another two great example of double standards.

1) Von der Leyen openly supports infrastructure bombings elsewhere and publicly pledged help bypassing existing EU law which should be a reason to remove her from the office in my opinion.

2) These are mostly private savings and pensions of Russian citizens frozen whom De Croo is stealing to fund a war. Majority of them did not support or vote for Putin yet they have no choice or options. People that support the war usually have no savings and are eager to go die for 2000$-3000$ a month.

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Seems there was a successful ATACMS hit on a Russian Military airport just now.


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Another two great example of double standards.

1) Von der Leyen openly supports infrastructure bombings elsewhere and publicly pledged help bypassing existing EU law which should be a reason to remove her from the office in my opinion.

2) These are mostly private savings and pensions of Russian citizens frozen whom De Croo is stealing to fund a war. Majority of them did not support or vote for Putin yet they have no choice or options. People that support the war usually have no savings and are eager to go die for 2000$-3000$ a month.


Oh, seems Europe is as much worse than russia or israel, bombing small ones, ggoing far right / totalitarian, and stealing citizen pension to force them to go into the meat grinder. Damn EU so bad .

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Seems there was a successful ATACMS hit on a Russian Military airport just now.


Military target airfield, 2 helicopters kaput apparently, and 1 arillery vehicle.
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Oh, seems Europe is as much worse than russia or israel, bombing small ones, ggoing far right / totalitarian, and stealing citizen pension to force them to go into the meat grinder. Damn EU so bad ..


That’s not what I said. Do not exaggerate. Try to concentrate and answer a question. You can use visual aids and ask friends for help.

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Seems Denis isn't alarmed anymore by Avdiivka russian offensive.




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That’s not what I said. Do not exaggerate. Try to concentrate and answer a question. You can use visual aids and ask friends for help.


How does it feels ?




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Quote (Malopox @ Oct 17 2023 06:34am)
Another two great example of double standards.

1) Von der Leyen openly supports infrastructure bombings elsewhere and publicly pledged help bypassing existing EU law which should be a reason to remove her from the office in my opinion.

2) These are mostly private savings and pensions of Russian citizens frozen whom De Croo is stealing to fund a war. Majority of them did not support or vote for Putin yet they have no choice or options. People that support the war usually have no savings and are eager to go die for 2000$-3000$ a month.


At point two. Didn't a majority of voters elect Putin as president?
Even if the elections were not completely transparent, is it not fair to assume a majority of people that did vote, voted for Putin.
Also as far as I know Putins approval rating in Russia is very high.

Do you mean that people with savings were generally opposed to the war?
And that poorer people were generally more supportive because they had something to gain?

While that may be true, do you not agree that Russians are complicit in the execution of the war?
Either by openly supporting, failing to oppose it or passively accepting it.

I'd argue they are complicit in that they alone have the power to remove Putin if that was the desire of the majority of Russians.

In the same way that Brits who opposed the Iraq war still have to accept they will be held responsible for the actions of the British government; Russians wether they support Putin or not, are in fact responsible for and complicit in the Kremlins actions.

I said before I think it is a complex decision with possible negative outcomes to distribute seized funds of another nation.
It would need consensus among many other countries not to be seen as damaging to international relations.
Although I do agree that Russia should be responsible for reparations after any ceasefire, its difficult to argue against that.

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Oct 17 2023 04:43am
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 12 2023 06:58am)
From the horses mouth. John Kirby saying it out loud.

“We’re coming to the end of that rope” referring to Ukraine funding

https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1712387045199368334?s=46&t=Clvaf6rKkSLkdAtdE744Gg


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