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Oct 6 2023 12:07pm
Quote (zorzin @ 6 Oct 2023 19:41)


Used cooking oil can be refined into fuels such as biodiesel and SAF, which can be blended with conventional fuels to reduce carbon emissions. It is also a feedstock for renewable diesel, which is chemically equivalent to petroleum-based diesel.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/bidens-ira-drives-surge-us-imports-chinese-used-cooking-oil-2023-09-22/

Okay, maybe EU should import it too... Maybe it's already done.

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Oct 6 2023 12:08pm
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Used cooking oil can be refined into fuels such as biodiesel and SAF, which can be blended with conventional fuels to reduce carbon emissions. It is also a feedstock for renewable diesel, which is chemically equivalent to petroleum-based diesel.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/bidens-ira-drives-surge-us-imports-chinese-used-cooking-oil-2023-09-22/

Okay, maybe EU should import it too... Maybe it's already done.


Gutter oil not so bad now?
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Oct 6 2023 12:09pm
Quote (Malopox @ Oct 6 2023 07:08pm)
Gutter oil not so bad now?


i think it went right over his head.
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Oct 6 2023 12:16pm
I was -finally- expecting a ruble recovery with oil price increase, even if the ural is below brent it probably follows the same path.

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Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 4 Oct 2023 04:01)
Libertarian in some ways but my domestic and foreign policy opinions tend to differ. I am generally for a decentralized state with very little influence on its citizens day to day lives, with policy being directed more locally as much as possible. That said I think western civilization is dying or dead so we require radical change that libertarians would not be willing or capable of implementing. I don't think styles of governance are a one size fits all, it depends on the state of the world and the country itself.

I did used to think that the suffering caused by the west was worth the stability and prosperity it brought but since the war on terror that has been changing slowly and their involvement in Ukraine put an end to any faith I had left that what they do is for the greater good. I also think that the quality of life and opportunity for westerners has been dropping considerably for decades, not just in financial terms but there has also been a continuous erosion of communities, spirituality and morality and those are not things that can be fixed with a change in policy or a new government IMO.

Would highly recommend reading Oswald Spenglers "the decline of the west" or at least a summary of his views on why civilizations rise and fall.



It is my view that the West is actively preventing other world factions from achieving parity with them, so that moral responsibility starts to look a bit twisted through that lens. The aid sent by western countries has so many strings attached that ultimately doom the country to becoming a welfare state, indebted to the world Bank and essentially just a resource hub for the West. There is a book called Superimperialism by Michael Hudson that goes into great detail describing how this all functions, can listen to the audiobook on YouTube and there is also a video of Hudson discussing it at length on there.

Freedom is a hard thing to quantify IMO, I think westerners have amazing advantages over many parts of the world, but I think it has unique problems as well and at the end of the day, nothing lasts forever, every empire in history has fallen, the current one won't break that cycle.

I'm sure countries near Russia do hate it for a variety of reasons, many of them legitimate but these tensions have been intentionally inflamed by US propaganda to create the current conflict IMO.


There just isn't much to debate anymore, people have their opinions set by now, we might argue about details here and there but I doubt anyone in here will change their current view regarding the conflict. How I treat people is largely based on how they engage with myself or others in the thread, if I think they are being rude or arguing in bad faith/ignorance then I'm not very pleasant :P


Fair enough. Thanks for the insight and the book recommendations.
Main points I would like bring up related to your reply: 1) I do believe as well that there is a spiritual vacuum, and its being substituted with fast-paced fads and trends and identity politics. Mostly Anglophones and Nordics. I'm very secular myself, but I do feel that the lack of religiosity takes a toll on humans. It can be substituted with philosophy, but most people aren't interested in it at a level deep enough to make a difference. Religion is easier. 2) I don't think we can stop others from reaching us. The future of humans seems to be very globalized. There's no going back, and unless there will be some global cataclysm, I don't think this one will fall the same way the earlier ones did 3) what's wrong with welfare states? The Nordics are welfare states.
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Oct 6 2023 04:13pm
Quote (zorzin @ Oct 6 2023 06:41pm)


How many straws can you clutch at the same time?
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Quote (Neptunus @ Oct 6 2023 05:54pm)
Fair enough. Thanks for the insight and the book recommendations.
Main points I would like bring up related to your reply: 1) I do believe as well that there is a spiritual vacuum, and its being substituted with fast-paced fads and trends and identity politics. Mostly Anglophones and Nordics. I'm very secular myself, but I do feel that the lack of religiosity takes a toll on humans. It can be substituted with philosophy, but most people aren't interested in it at a level deep enough to make a difference. Religion is easier. 2) I don't think we can stop others from reaching us. The future of humans seems to be very globalized. There's no going back, and unless there will be some global cataclysm, I don't think this one will fall the same way the earlier ones did 3) what's wrong with welfare states? The Nordics are welfare states.


Completely agree with everything you said about the spiritual vacuum, I'm also secular but feel religion is extremely important to societal cohesion so I have a deep respect for it even though I don't follow one myself.

I think globalization is inevitable, but I also think how we go about it matters. I think the current system is quite predatory, this may be an unavoidable consequence of natural hierarchies forming amongst more and less powerful countries but it seems morally wrong to me how it plays out. Besides that, I don't think the current system prioritizes actually increasing prosperity but rather maximizing profits at the expense of anything else. In Canada for example, when the COVID pandemic started we had to purchase all of our vaccines because we didn't have the ability to produce them meaning we had to wait longer than other countries and we got what was available. We would have been able to had we not hollowed out pharmaceutical industry and actually invested in it but it was more profitable to just buy it elsewhere, short term gains vs long term prosperity/security.

My bad regarding "welfare state" I meant it as " a state on welfare" but didn't realize it is an actual term :lol:
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Oct 7 2023 12:19am
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 7 Oct 2023 00:13)
How many straws can you clutch at the same time?


Why would you say something like that? Did you read the Reuters article posted?
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Yep confirmed, Self-badLuck two times... More than 100 millions Euros each.
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