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Oct 5 2023 12:13pm
Anyone who thinks Ukraine is winning is just high on copium

The walls are closing in and it's clear to see, they just want to keep Ukraine fighting to spite Russia, without any care in the world for more lost lives and destruction
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Oct 5 2023 12:16pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Oct 5 2023 02:01pm)
Probably inflated number but it's certainly in the six figures. I think segmenting the losses is mostly propaganda IMO to at least point out there are foreigners in the war which creates the illusion of foreign armies being at your doorstep and works well with domestic patriotism. I do think a fair amount of mercenaries and foreign volunteers have been killed but it would be impossible to have down to the single digit.


Yeah that makes sense to me, the inclusion of the national guard numbers still seems odd though, I can't see the same PR angle with those as with foreign mercs or nationalist battalions.

Any idea why they would count them separately? Not sure if these numbers refer to the war since 2014 or since Russia invaded, but if they refer to casualties since 2014 the national guard could be included as a means of showing Ukraine was dedicating significant forces to suppress the separatists? Best I can come up with
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Oct 5 2023 12:28pm
Quote (El1te @ Oct 5 2023 08:13pm)
Anyone who thinks Ukraine is winning is just high on copium

The walls are closing in and it's clear to see, they just want to keep Ukraine fighting to spite Russia, without any care in the world for more lost lives and destruction


the ukraine cheerleaders want them to fight to the last man just so they can feel like the good guys

these "liberal" dipshits in the west are probably the most dangerous people in the world right now, they would risk WW3 and nuclear war right now to REEEEEEE RUSSIA some more

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Oct 5 2023 12:35pm
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the ukraine cheerleaders want them to fight to the last man just so they can feel like the good guys

these "liberal" dipshits in the west are probably the most dangerous people in the world right now, they would risk WW3 and nuclear war right now to REEEEEEE RUSSIA some more

unreal

Most definitely the most dangerous, as they themselves will attest to whenever anyone gets out of line.
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Oct 5 2023 12:43pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Oct 5 2023 07:28pm)
the ukraine cheerleaders want them to fight to the last man just so they can feel like the good guys

these "liberal" dipshits in the west are probably the most dangerous people in the world right now, they would risk WW3 and nuclear war right now to REEEEEEE RUSSIA some more

unreal


Awful post. Stop eating legos.

Interesting to see how many posters in pard chose to deride the Russian strike that killed 49 people so far.
Markedly less than chose to deride people applauding who they thought was a veteran.

Shows how deep in the swamp pard is. A degenerate circle jerk of insecure right wing closet lurkers.
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Oct 5 2023 12:46pm
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Awful post. Stop eating legos.

Interesting to see how many posters in pard chose to deride the Russian strike that killed 49 people so far.
Markedly less than chose to deride people applauding who they thought was a veteran.

Shows how deep in the swamp pard is. A degenerate circle jerk of insecure right wing closet lurkers.


Are you really this dense. All you do is resort to personal attacks and name calling instead of discussing anything.

The only reason these strikes are still happening is because Ukraine refuses to surrender. Anyone still in favour of continuing bloodshed and war has the blood of innocents on their hands

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Oct 5 2023 01:01pm
Quote (El1te @ 5 Oct 2023 18:46)
Are you really this dense. All you do is resort to personal attacks and name calling instead of discussing anything.
The only reason these strikes are still happening is because Ukraine refuses to surrender. Anyone still in favour of continuing bloodshed and war has the blood of innocents on their hands


Woaw this is degeneracy because we already have an idea of what the russian army can do (Museum loot, Bucha massacre, rapes, tortures, massive children deportations...) when it advance.

Let me tell you:

I know how it works, and I know how your story will ends already: you and all the "pro-putin's regime buddies" will leave this topic, this sub at some point when Russia:
- will reach the point of some collapse
- will have another major military failure
Same phenomena than when Trump lost elections, it's not exactly the same people ofc but mechanics are the same: ruscists will simply vanish for months, maybe for ever from PARD.

And if you are still here it will be a pleasure to remind your "walls are closing" claims.

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Awful post. Stop eating legos.

Interesting to see how many posters in pard chose to deride the Russian strike that killed 49 people so far.
Markedly less than chose to deride people applauding who they thought was a veteran.

Shows how deep in the swamp pard is. A degenerate circle jerk of insecure right wing closet lurkers.


Didn't you pull this same routine after the "attack" in Kostiantynivka?

Haven't brought that one up in awhile.
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Oct 5 2023 01:12pm
Quote (El1te @ 5 Oct 2023 20:46)
Are you really this dense. All you do is resort to personal attacks and name calling instead of discussing anything.

The only reason these strikes are still happening is because Ukraine refuses to surrender. Anyone still in favour of continuing bloodshed and war has the blood of innocents on their hands


imagine being so far down the pro-russian rabbit hole that you don't even notice how you're automatically making excuses for war criminals... holy shit...

the reason those strikes are happening is because russia started a war against ukraine to conquer territory that isn't theirs. the reason they are happening is because russia is launching them. literally everyone except russia wants this war to end. you think the ukrainians enjoy the war?! it's on russia to end it - they started it, they are currently occupying foreign territory, they have to stop their aggression. the mental gymnastics of kremlin bots are truly mindblowing...

you're basically saying "the reason someone breaks into your house is because you refused to give them all your valuable stuff", implying it's on you to prevent crime by giving potential criminals whatever they want. that's absurd.

vatnik logic...
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Oct 5 2023 01:13pm
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Didn't you pull this same routine after the "attack" in Kostiantynivka?

Haven't brought that one up in awhile.


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