Quote (El1te @ Oct 3 2023 04:53pm)

You have no argument

Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 3 Oct 2023 16:10)

Your posts don't make sense because you can't communicate in English.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 3 2023 09:15am)

I'm uninterested in arguing with someone living in an alternate reality. I doubt Hitchens could even persuade you back from the edge of your own blissful ignorance :rofl:

Quote (Goomshill @ 3 Oct 2023 08:50)

https://www.politico.eu/article/fight-against-ussr-nazi-waffen-ss-trooper-yaroslav-hunka-world-war-ii-soviet-union-germany/

Politico leveled up and unlocked a new power: Unabashed holocaust denialism.

"The Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center registered its outrage, noting that Hunka’s unit’s “crimes against humanity during the Holocaust are well-documented” — a statement that doesn’t seem to have any more substance than the accusation by Russia."

Quote (El1te @ Oct 3 2023 05:22pm)

The real reason is because you have no argument, just ad hominem "Russian agent" responses

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Oct 3 2023 05:49pm)

I find it funny that I gave a somewhat nuanced view of Musks' motivations. That he fundamentally wants the public to see him as smart and important, but he's fairly easily manipulated, and the bootlickers have to reframe it at every opportunity as "lol you think he's literally a Russian puppet"

Musk gave Ukraine Starlink for public brownie points because he knew it was popular. Then after being contacted by Russia fell for their talking points, and proposed a "middle ground" to seem smart and independent and peace-wanting. Only issue is that "middle ground" cedes virtually everything to Russia, the unambiguous aggressor. This culminated in him threatening to shut it down until the DoD took over payments, and then refusing to expand it into the areas that, again, Russia took from Ukraine.

And this is based on Musks's own words about who convinced him to take the positions and actions he did, because he was open about talking to Putin and only then started saying ridiculous things like "Putin wants peace". To disagree with my stance you have to literally ignore Musks's own account of his reasoning.

But then again both posters criticizing me for this position spent half a decade licking Trump's boots on the grounds that you can't trust his own words. So makes sense they would just carry that gullibility over.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 3 2023 09:44am)

Russias most successful miltary commander of the Ukraine invasion,

- "The Ministry of Defense is trying to deceive the public and the president and spin the story that there were insane levels of aggression from the Ukrainian side and that they were going to attack us together with the whole NATO bloc,” Prigozhin said on his Telegram channel on June 23. The truth, he said, was that “there was nothing extraordinary happening on the eve of February 24,” the day last year when Russian invaded. Ukraine was not planning any kind of attack against Russia, he added.

Not even all Russians believe what your projecting as the truth.
It's a weird hill for you to choose to die on, but as I said, do you.

Just don't expect me to indulge in your dillusions.

Quote (El1te @ Oct 3 2023 05:52pm)

I'm not saying that NATO was preparing to invade Russia (I do not believe they were)

I'm saying that the state of Ukraine aggressively terrorized the LPR and DPR peoples for 8 years since they willfully seceded from the state of Ukraine in 2014. Instead of leaving them be and recognizing their right to self determination, Ukraine decided to bomb them and terrorize them with enthusiastic support from actual card-carrying Nazi units (Azov and others)

In response, Russia moved in to protect them and expel the Ukrainian aggressors. Their casus belli is entirely legitimate

Quote (Malopox @ Oct 3 2023 05:27pm)

Very controversial piece by Politico. I’m not sure why they published it.

1) author makes references to British and Soviet investigations into Galicia division that “cleared them” which I could not find. No link is provided.

2) he heavily references flawed Deschenes investigation of 1985 which reads like a heavily politicized case designed to discredit Simon Wiesenthal. They literally admit they discarded or did not request evidence available at Yad Vashem or in Eastern Europe. Why make the effort then - it’s where the crime was committed.

3) he neglects to mention Polish investigations into the same division which have presented proof and witnesses of the massacres specifying that these were committed by Ukranians of the 14th with Germans supervising (eg Huta Pienacka).

4) a just thing for Canada would be to double down on Dechenes commission report, reopen it and disclose that Hunka was among the 16 cleared Galicians allowed to reside in 1985 and that his case was processed with due diligence.

These are the first few comments i have on top of my head without reading too much into this thing.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Oct 3 2023 02:21pm)

Really flogging a Ukrainian that was in the SS without any evidence he was responsible for war crimes, but completely unphased by the Molotov Ribbentrop pact that enabled the final solution in the first place?

Heavy bias.