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Feb 6 2019 07:55pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 5 2019 08:20am)
lol, trump, a lifelong contractor who's been fucking over customers, city building codes, and subcontractors for decades.

there's about a 250% chance he did something illegal in that process. he will scapegoat it and pay a fine, but lol.


"Surely the goalposts of this investigation cannot be moved any further"

>Hold my beer
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Feb 7 2019 08:09am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 6 2019 08:55pm)
"Surely the goalposts of this investigation cannot be moved any further"

>Hold my beer


There's no unified "Trump investigation". Mueller is looking at Russia/obstruction stuff, SDNY are probing campaign finance violations and inaugural committee shenanigans, and the NY AG is looking at the Trump foundation.

Trump cultists have this weird idea that any illegal or unethical conduct discovered outside of a conspiracy with Russia doesn't count. I guess the rule of law is confusing to some people.

Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 7 2019 09:11am)
investigations dont have goalposts, you legally ignorant pleb. investigations find anything illegal and charge for it. they all have an event that starts the investigation, but many dont end up with charges sent to the DA in line with the accusations that started the investigation.

"hey officer, i know i was speeding, but that joint roach u found isn't fair to charge me for"

you kids need to take an into to CJ class, this narrative is embarrassing.


Pretty sure he has a CJ degree.

This post was edited by IceMage on Feb 7 2019 08:14am
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Feb 7 2019 08:11am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 6 2019 07:55pm)
"Surely the goalposts of this investigation cannot be moved any further"

>Hold my beer


investigations dont have goalposts, you legally ignorant pleb. investigations find anything illegal and charge for it. they all have an event that starts the investigation, but many dont end up with charges sent to the DA in line with the accusations that started the investigation.

"hey officer, i know i was speeding, but that joint roach u found isn't fair to charge me for"

you kids need to take an into to CJ class, this narrative is embarrassing.
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Feb 7 2019 08:13am
Quote (IceMage @ Feb 7 2019 07:09am)
There's no unified "Trump investigation". Mueller is looking at Russia/obstruction stuff, SDNY are probing campaign finance violations and inaugural committee shenanigans, and the NY AG is looking at the Trump foundation.

Trump cultists have this weird idea that any illegal or unethical conduct discovered outside of a conspiracy with Russia doesn't count. I guess the rule of law is confusing to some people.


It's a witch hunt when it's white guys with money
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Feb 8 2019 08:04am
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/richard-burr-on-senate-intelligence-committees-russia-investigation-2-years-on/

Interview with the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee. The quote right-wingers are running with is "no evidence of collusion", which I think is somewhat significant. It's worth reading the whole article... he hints at something bigger that they'll have to keep investigating for years, which I assume is the extent of foreign influence operations in the United States.

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Also, a court filing in the Manafort case hints at something significant with Konstantin Kiliminik.

https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1093635620461780992

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https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/08/jake-tapper-buzzfeed-dossier/?=1

some more insight into the internal workings of the press surrounding the release of the steele dossier
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After BuzzFeed published the infamous Steele dossier, CNN anchor Jake Tapper lit into BuzzFeed editor Ben Smith for the decision, calling it “irresponsible” and “uncollegial,” according to emails released Friday.

I think your move makes the story less serious and credible[.] I think you damaged its impact,” Tapper wrote to Smith on Jan. 10, 2017, just after BuzzFeed published the dossierin full on its website.

The emails were released in response to a federal judge’s order to unseal documents from a lawsuit against BuzzFeed, which was sued in February 2017 by a Russian businessman who was accused in the dossier of being a Russian agent.

Lawyers for the Russian, Aleksej Gubarev, picked out the Tapper-Smith exchange in hopes of showing BuzzFeed failed to do its due diligence before publishing the dossier, which was funded by Democrats and compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele. (RELATED: BuzzFeed Wins Dossier Lawsuit)

BuzzFeed noted in its initial report that the dossier remained unverified. Smith defended the decision to publish the document on the grounds that numerous policymakers, government officials and journalists were aware of its salacious rumors, which included that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government to win the 2016 election.

Tapper was seemingly upset with Smith because shortly before BuzzFeed published the dossier, CNN had reported parts of the document had been briefed to then-President-elect Donald Trump in a meeting with top intelligence community officials Jan. 6, 2017.

CNN did not publish the dossier, but BuzzFeed used CNN’s story as a hook to publish Steele’s 35-page report.

That was pretty uncollegial[.] Not to mention irresponsible[.] No one has verified this stuff,” Tapper wrote to Smith.

Smith defended his decision, telling Tapper that publishing the dossier “was not an easy call.”

Collegiality wise it was you stepping on my dick,” Tapper responded.

“You could have waited til morning,” he said.

“Professionally this is unverified info[.] Your guys unlike us don’t even seem to know who the former agent is,” added Tapper, seemingly referring to Christopher Steele, the former British spy who wrote the dossier.

Smith rebutted Tapper’s claim, saying “of course” he knew who wrote the dossier.

Smith mentioned part of his exchange with Tapper in an essay at BuzzFeed, though he did not quote all of the CNN host’s colorful language. Smith noted Tapper has developed a reputation for contacting fellow journalists to air various grievances.


I guess its just more of what we already know, but it colors the motives of the media going into publishing it. CNN wanted more impact, Buzzfeed wanted more clicks.
Tapper knew that putting out a ridiculous russian-hooker-piss smear with no verification would make it less serious and credible than when they kept playing up the FBI having a top secret dossier
But from that exchange it sure sounds like he was more interested in maximizing its damage to Trump than on professional ethics

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Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 9 2019 03:10am)
https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/08/jake-tapper-buzzfeed-dossier/?=1

some more insight into the internal workings of the press surrounding the release of the steele dossier


I guess its just more of what we already know, but it colors the motives of the media going into publishing it. CNN wanted more impact, Buzzfeed wanted more clicks.
Tapper knew that putting out a ridiculous russian-hooker-piss smear with no verification would make it less serious and credible than when they kept playing up the FBI having a top secret dossier
But from that exchange it sure sounds like he was more interested in maximizing its damage to Trump than on professional ethics


CNN wanted to make a bigger splash. Alert the press.

Tapper is notoriously thin-skinned btw. Although probably the best anchor on television.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/thinnest-media-skins-2018_us_5c084817e4b0bf813ef3c6cc

Hilarious quote from that article on Greenwald:

Whisper “Russia” into a mirror three times, the old seafarers’ legend goes, and Glenn Greenwald will appear in your mentions calling you a warmongering neocon grifter, you fucking coward.

This post was edited by IceMage on Feb 9 2019 09:04am
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Feb 10 2019 11:58am
https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/02/09/paul-manafort-sold-out-donald-trump-and-his-anonymous-leakers-are-lying-about-it-publicly/

Marcy reading between the lines on the redacted Manafort court documents.

It's always confused me why Trump and his cult have never considered the possibility that shady characters in his campaign colluded with Russia without his knowledge. Especially Manafort, who had the financial incentives, and Russian-connected intermediaries to do so.
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Feb 11 2019 09:41am
Could be much more than a simple "collusion"... Reading some news

https://theweek.com/speedreads/823078/robert-muellers-lead-prosecutor-drops-hint-suggesting-russian-collusion-still-much-menu

The theory that Trump campaign officials were in talks to effectively cede Eastern Ukraine to Russia and maybe ease Russian sanctions while Russia was helping the Trump campaign "was offered almost as an aside by the prosecutor, Andrew Weissmann,"

That's pure treason and fatal blow to EU-US relation imo. If verfied in the future ...
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