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Nov 15 2019 12:59pm
Quote (Ghot @ Nov 15 2019 01:46pm)
Trump made it known... repeatedly, that he wanted the gas company and the Bidens investigated. The State Depts. ambassadors to the Ukraine, ignored that desire. Again, sounds like a policy difference to me.
This claim that the US ambassadors to the Ukraine ignored that desire, came right from Yovamnovitch's testimony about 20 minutes ago.


It's not a policy difference for US officials to object to participating in a nakedly corrupt effort to pressure a foreign government to investigate a president's political opponents. That's not policy, it's self-dealing.
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Nov 15 2019 01:01pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 15 2019 01:59pm)
It's not a policy difference for US officials to object to participating in a nakedly corrupt effort to pressure a foreign government to investigate a president's political opponents. That's not policy, it's self-dealing.



If that had happened you would be correct.

Trump wanted this investigation, by her own admission, back in 2017. Our Ukrainian ambassadors CHOSE to ignore that.

/e The republican representatives, are very careful in their questioning today. Yovanovitch IS answering truthfully, and she has admitted that Trump wanted this done in 2017. She even testified that Obama wanted the gas company and Hunter Biden investigated back in 2014. Then she testified that the US ambassadors decided to NOT carry on with the investigation, but didn't close it... they wanted to keep a hook in.

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Nov 15 2019 01:13pm
I'm a little surprised that the Republicans have been so ineffective. So far they're focusing on a couple conspiracies, Schiff, and the whistle blower. They've provided no real defense of what the ambassador went through.
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Nov 15 2019 01:16pm
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I'm a little surprised that the Republicans have been so ineffective. So far they're focusing on a couple conspiracies, Schiff, and the whistle blower. They've provided no real defense of what the ambassador went through.


Probably because no one cares "what the ambassador went through". If she needs therapy she should see a shrink.
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Nov 15 2019 01:18pm
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Probably because no one cares "what the ambassador went through". If she needs therapy she should see a shrink.


Well, it's unfortunate you don't care that the president sabotages his own administration because he believes baseless conspiracy theories spun by Guilliani and Hannity.

I dunno, maybe it's possible to be concerned about that and still support him. Not sure.
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Nov 15 2019 01:23pm
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Well, it's unfortunate you don't care that the president sabotages his own administration because he believes baseless conspiracy theories spun by Guilliani and Hannity.

I dunno, maybe it's possible to be concerned about that and still support him. Not sure.




Joe Biden withheld $1 billion USD until the prosecutor in the gas company case was removed.

The repulicans of the House that did question Yovanovitch, already determined, she has ZERO information about the $391 million and ther request that Ukraine re-opens the investigation into the gas company and Hunter Biden.

/e Hell, Nunes even said... "then I really don't understand why you're hear today" to Yovanovitch.

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Nov 15 2019 01:24pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 15 2019 12:18pm)
Well, it's unfortunate you don't care that the president sabotages his own administration because he believes baseless conspiracy theories spun by Guilliani and Hannity.

I dunno, maybe it's possible to be concerned about that and still support him. Not sure.


It's hard to even take you at face value.
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Nov 15 2019 01:28pm
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1195420114117693443

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call out Schiff for claiming the Whistleblower would Testify.

This was before it came out that his office communicated with the Whistleblower.

Now he claims he doesn’t know who the Whistleblower is.

What is he hiding?
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Nov 15 2019 01:31pm
Yovanovitch just answered yes to... Did Joe Biden withhold $1 billion dollars to Ukraine until Shokin was fired.

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Nov 15 2019 01:32pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Nov 15 2019 02:28pm)
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1195420114117693443

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@EliseStefanik
call out Schiff for claiming the Whistleblower would Testify.

This was before it came out that his office communicated with the Whistleblower.

Now he claims he doesn’t know who the Whistleblower is.

What is he hiding?


He's hiding the name from the right-wing vultures who want to distract from Trump's corruption. Pretty obvious.
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